I currently have a socketio webserver using WSGI and I host it with gunicorn. I also have set up a javascript client which uses a web browser. I've managed to get these two to be able to communicate.
I'm working on creating an information service which takes events which happen in a game from a log and then parses it through a seperate python script to create a readable GUI. But that bit doesn't really matter.
Once I have my string of text from my seperate python program, how do I send it to all clients connected to my webserver? The program isnt part of the socketIO server so, as far as I'm aware, can't use emit().
My idea was to create a seperate python client which connected to the socketio server and do it that way. I've illustrated the flow below:
socketIO python Client -- DATA --> socketIO server
socketIO server -- DATA --> ALL socketIO clients.
I'm struggling to be able to work out a way to perform this? Could anyone help or suggest a more efficient way? Let me know if my explanation is unclear.
Thanks Miguel, I hadn't seen that in the documentation. Despite reading it over and over, I was stuck for a while. My stupid mind didn't come across the thought that I'd need to install Redis-server...
All working now!
Lesson learned: check requirements for my program...
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I am actually working in a project SDN(Software Defined Networking) Based Project using python on linux(Ubuntu). Which actually works as a packet traffic monitor. All this work is shown on the cmd without GUI. I want a GUI in which we can see the animation of traffic like flow , or time delay , number of send or received packets.
Just need some help to do this.
this is related to networking engineering or Net Centric Programming.
I work with a project like do you want. We software is divided in backend and frontend. Backend runs an Openflow Controller that create and manage rules. We capture statistics of the rules and send to frontend application that shows this statistics in graphs. You can share the stats with frontend through Json or something like this. The Frontend Application can be developed in html/css/JavaScript.
I want to implement a peer-to-peer video chat feature for a web application I am currently developing. After doing my research, I've decided that using webRTC's Javascript APIs is the way to go. The application uses AngularJS in the front end and Ruby on Rails in the back end. The main issue I'm encountering while conceptualizing this application is linking the front end with the backend, and creating and maintaining the connection between user streams.
For the signaling aspect of the network, I want to utilize ActionController::Live and the Ruby gem em-event source to push live messages from the server to users and indicate which of their connections are online. Then, when they are ready to make a connection, they will create a custom room and the URL will be sent to the user that they wish to connect with, creating their offer. Once the user clicks on the link sent to them, they send back their answer. When the user responds, the ICE candidate process will begin for each of the users. Do you think that this is a sufficient signaling channel to set up the PeerConnection? What other major players am I missing?
From the research that I have done about WebRTC's RTCPeerConnection, once the initial connection is set up, and both users have public IP addresses corresponding to their stream, the connection is sustained through RTCPeerConnection, more specifically getPeerConnection(). Am I wrong? Are there other factors that I am not considering?
WebRTC makes the process of creating MediaStreams very simple with their getUserMedia method. Once these streams are created they can be added to the RTCPeerConnection that was established. Both as local and remote streams.
If you have any other suggestions for me, please let me know. I want to create this feature using webRTC, it seems like so much fun
There are certainly many ways to handle the call signaling so I'm not going to comment specifically on your approach. I will say that if you plan on supporting ICE trickling the ICE candidates will start flowing very early in the process so you really need an open signalling channel between your peers almost immediately when trying to connect to a peer.
We developed our solution for WebSphere on top of MQTT which is an open, and very simple pub/sub protocol. You can use any open MQTT broker with the protocol and there are a number of open source components available to make WebRTC development extremely easy including an AngularJS WebRTC module (angular-rtcomm), a core pure JavaScript module and much more. We also released a simple JSON based protocol as part of this open source solution. You can take a look at the signaling protocol. You can also read more details about the overall solution here (www.wasdev.net/webrtc). Here you'll find the base JavaScript libraries as well as a number of open source sample solutions. All of these can be forked on github.
In general you want to build your signaling on a protocol that will allow you to grow over time. It should work well for the web and mobile apps. From our experience it took a lot of time to get all this to work well and our goal was to not only support peer-to-peer calls but to support using media resources like Dialogic's XMS PowerMedia server on the backend for multiway support, record/playback and more. We also needed to support federation via SIP trunking so we wanted to make sure the protocol could be easily translated to SIP signaling while also supporting transcoding between media protocols like VP8 and H.264.
Note that if you're looking to only support peer-to-peer calling between WebRTC clients you can do that with these rtcomm open source components only, including an open MQTT broker and save yourself a ton of time. You can literally get something up and running in a matter of hours. The developer version of the WebSphere Liberty beta with the new rtcomm-1.0 service enabled also includes a built in MQTT broker and supports the open WebRTC signaling protocol linked above. You can use WebSphere for development and deploy a single server of this in production for free. You can also use Ruby on Rails with Liberty as well if you'd like.
Even if you decide not to use Liberty you can use all the open source components along with something like Mosquito (which is an open source MQTT broker) to get a solution off the ground quickly. There are also a number of MQTT clients available for many different programming languages including JavaScript, Java, etc. Check out https://eclipse.org/paho/. If you decide to build you're own signaling protocol you might still find these open source components helpful to see how we approached integration with the WebRTC PeerConnection.
I'm planning on writing a control panel for Minecraft in Rails but I don't have much experience with Java at all, Minecraft seems to have some standard remote connection and query tools, but most conventional panels don't seem to use them. For example with McMyAdmin, I have disabled remote connectiona and the query, but it still seems to be able to communicate with the server after restarting it after I've edited the server configs to disable the settings.
What I'm asking is if anyone knows how McMyAdmin communicates with the Minecraft server, it comes with a plugin, but I've deleted that as well and it still seems to be able to communicate with the server, I know McMyAdmin is written in .NET and I believe it uses Mono as it's server, as it's cross platform.
If anybody could shed some light on this I'd be ever so greatful, just trying to get my head around the communication.
McMyAdmin uses the plugin to open a socket that it can interact with(Not sure which features are provided using this plugin). The rest of the features are just from the Process instance that it creates. It also just edits the config files for a few things as well or runs commands using the input stream of the process.
On non-web based chat system the server distinguishes its clients by their PIDs, right? And what should be used to distinguish the clients on web-based chat system?
Thnx in advance
The fact that you're using a web server shouldn't change much about your model. You're still building chat. You also don't want to make your chats tied too deeply to the process that is managing their HTTP connection. HTTP connections are ephemeral, even if everything is going well and you're using long polling there's no guarantee that the connection will be re-used with Keep-Alive for the next long poll. The user might also want to open up the same chat in multiple browser windows, multiple computers, whatever.
I haven't looked closely at any of these but you're not the first person that has built web chat with Erlang:
http://chrismoos.com/2009/09/28/building-an-erlang-chat-server-with-comet-part-1/
http://www.erlang-factory.com/upload/presentations/31/EugeneLetuchy-ErlangatFacebook.pdf
http://yoan.dosimple.ch/blog/2008/05/15/
https://github.com/yrashk/socket.io-erlang (more of a general tool for this sort of thing, not chat specifically)
https://github.com/rvirding/chat_demo (as seen above)
I think the confusion comes from the notion that a Erlang server process must stay alive for every individual client. It can, but Mochiweb doesn't do that by default if I'm not mistaken. It just spawns a new process for every request. If you would like to have a long lived bidirectional client <-> server process connection you can do that for example by;
sending a client identifier with every request and map that to a long-lived process on the server. The process will maintain servers state and you can call methods on it. It's still pull and not push though.
use the web socket implementations. Not sure if Mochiweb has one, but other Erlang HTTP servers like Misultin and Yaws provide one. For a web based chat system I believe web sockets would be a great fit.
For a very trivial example of a web-based chat system using websockets and Misultin you can check out this chat demo. It was written to demonstrate an idea and is not very elegant, but it does work.
I have heard that web-based chat clients tend to use networking frameworks such as the twisted framework.
But would it be possible to build a web-based chat client without a networking framework - using only ajax connections?
I would like to build a session-based one-to-one web chat client that uses sessions to indicate when a chat has ended. Would this be possible in Rails using only ajax and without a networking framework?
What effect does it have to use a networking framework and what impact would it have on my app to not use one? Also any general recommendations for approaching this project would be appreciated.
If i understand you correctly, you want to have to clients connect to you server and send messaged to each other to each other through ajax, via the server.
This is possible, there are two approaches to do this.
The easy approach is to have both client poll every few seconds to check for new messages posted by the other. Drawback is that the messages are not instantly delivered. I think this is an example found in the rails book.
The more complex approach is to keep an open connection and sent the messages to the client as soon as they are received by the server. To do this you can use something like Juggernaut
I would like to add that though the latter works, it is not something http was meant for and it a bit of hack, but hey, whatever gets the job done. A working example of this is the rails chat project which uses a juggernaut derivative.
Technically speaking every network based application has a networking framework under it and, therefore, is socket based...
The only real question here is whether you want to have all that chatter go through your server or allow point to point communication. If the former, you can use the ajax framework to talk to your web server. This means that all of your clients will be constantly polling the web server for updates.
If the later, then you have to allow direct tcp connections between the two clients and need to get a little closer to the metal so to speak.
So, ask yourself this: Do you want to pay for the traffic costs AND have potential liability over divulging whatever it is that people might be typing into their client; or, would you rather just build a chat program that people can use to talk to each other?
Of course, before even going that far, do you really want to build yet another chat client? That space is already pretty crowded.