Can someone explain what does this phrase mean in this sentence?
Dart is a client-optimized programming language for apps on multiple platforms.
The first thing you need to understand is that it is about optimization by the Dart developer (that is, Google).
This means that Google does not optimize Dart for use in applications other than client-oriented applications.
For example, in Dart there is no such thing as RDBMS (Relational Database Management System) and Google does not plan to contribute to this kind of development (to optimize the use of this type).
All software like this is very fragmented and not compatible with each other due to the lack of optimization from the developer’s side.
Simple, dart use a Dart Virtual machine that helps to optimize the code and compile just in time super fast and render or re-render UI very easy, Dart VM works very similar that JVM with Java, Dart Virtual Machine compile your code to low level very fast so if you want to build web apps, mobile apps o desktop apps you will has a full optimized machine code, for Flutter, dart VM compile from Dart to C++, for the web Dart VM compile from dart to Javascript, Dart is a good robust language designed to make very easy characteristics like Hot reload and Hot restart.
A programming language optimised for building user interfaces with features such as the spread operator for expanding collections, and collection if for customising UI for each.
For example spread operator
var list = [1, 2, 3];
var list2 = [0, ...list];
assert(list2.length == 4);
To clarify, the "Client" in Client-Optimized is referring to the actual user client, same idea as as Client/Server in web technologies.
Here it refers to the part of the App that is responsible for sending requests to the rest of your App for it to do all the functions you've built it to do.'Client' here includes the front-end parts that the person using your application is interacting with
For many reasons (including the ones mentioned in the other answers), Dart is really well suited to make all things Client run super smoothly. Its Optimized how it renders the UI, the layout, the animations, the load times, how it compiles, etc so everything the user (or "Client") does is Optimized.
As mentioned before, it lacks optimization for things that are not client facing such as database management.
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The feature widely advertised about Erlang is its ability to hot-swap code modules while the app is running and is shown as a unique killer-feature not available in other languages.
Here is a quote from Joe Armstrong's book:
Most servers execute a fixed program, and
if you want to modify the behavior of the server, you have to stop the server
and then restart it with the modified code.
Though, in context of web development, the majority of languages support so-called hot-swapping of the code even without calling it so. It's just updating code and publishing it on the web via git or a continuous integration solution.
I know Erlang has a lot of applications in domains other than web, so I am sure it makes sense in those cases.
But, does this feature have benefits in comparison to dynamic languages used for web, like Python, Ruby, JavaScript? What are the cases for web development where it outperforms popular web-oriented languages?
The hot code swaping in erlang offers more than the ability to upgrade the code (I won't make any comparison with python, ruby or javascript, I have a very limited knowledge of them):
You can decide, for each node, when you will load a new version of code
Then 2 versions of code will be present in the VM, all the running processes will use the old version of each module until a next fully qualified call to this module occurs (Mod:Func/arity)
if you are using OTP behaviors, the server (or fsm or gen_event) will be called first with their code_change call_back, receiving in the parameters, the old version of the module. So it is possible to check either or not it is possible to manage the upgrade, and to perform any necessary operation on the state Data, ETS, process synchronization... before really jumping into the new code.
if you are not using OTP behavior, it is still possible to receive the messages of the form {system, From, Req} and then call sys:handle_system_msg/6 which in turn will call the code_change call_back.
This feature is not targeted at web development just as Erlang itself was not created with web development specifically in mind.
One possible area where this feature outperforms model used in general dynamic languages used for web is precise control over the way code is upgraded.
code can be updated not only between calls, but also during call
you can provide explicit path of upgrade for state related to call
I'm starting to study Dart. It seems a nice language and in some aspects a real improvement over JavaScript. Since it claims to come with "batteries included" and to be meant for "structured web apps", though, I fail to understand how to actually structure a web app with it. Almost all the tutorials concentrate on language features, but Dart is quite simple and with many familiar bits, so that's the easy part.
Recently I fell in love with AngularJs. Now routing, two way binding, nested scope, clean separation of concerns... This actually means "structured" to me. But all the Dart examples I find are about selecting HTML elements and attaching listeners to them. This is old-style jQuery-like web programming and quite frankly the opposite of what I think of when I read "structured".
I don't want to compare a language and a framework and I know that Angular Dart is out, but I fear I'm missing something of vanilla Dart, because if it's all about a shorter syntax for lambdas, class based OOP vs prototypical OOP and the like, I don't see how it's supposed to be a game changer: there are many other languages that provide an alternative JS syntax (Ã la CoffeeScript) and compile to it, and they don't come at the price of losing a perfect integration with existing JavaScript libraries and tools.
Sure, it has optional static typing, which may be great, but this comes more to a matter of preferences. I'm a full time Python and Ruby developer and I'm perfectly fine with dynamic languages. Is this what they mean by "structured"?
Thanks for any clarification that will eventually come.
I work on AngularDart and have some experience structuring web apps.
When building a web app in Dart you would pick a web app framework, for example AngularDart or polymer.dart. Web app frameworks have a lot of opinion which is something that doesn't fit in the core libraries. In that respect, "vanilla Dart" is fairly vanilla.
Since I'm most familiar with Angular, I'll discuss the Angular + Dart combination. However, the rest of this post is also true for polymer.dart.
Angular provides a lot of structure to your app. We've been able to provide a similar structure for both Dart and Javascript. The concept of directives, data binding and dependency injection exist in both.
Dart provides more structure and we've been able to use that structure while building AngularDart. e.g. the directive API is defined in terms of annotations which means that IDEs understand them and can help you code.
There are a number of "structure" features in Dart. One of my favourites is tooling. With types and annotations comes better tooling support.
Types in Dart are most useful when combined with tools. Auto-complete is great but for large web projects, static analyze is even better. For example, in AngularDart, since directives are annotated classes, we can assert that the annotation is correct. Even more interesting is the potential to build tools. In AngularDart, we have a tool that extracts and analyzes all directives. This type of tooling is possible in Javascript but easy and supported by the language in Dart.
libraries, packages
integrated dependency management with pub package manager
class based instead of prototype based
scopes of variables as one would expect in a modern language
static syntax check
better tooling support like code completion
I have been reading the abstracts on the website http://www.rikulo.org but all those cryptic vague statements do not help me. The examples are all about visuals.
I do not understand what this framework is capeable of doing. The big picture is missing.
What kind of apps can i build with rikulo?
Is there any access to the hardware?
Can is use the smartphones sensordata and send e.g. coordinates from my smartphone to a web service?
What are the limitations?
As described in this blog, Rikulo is aimed to provide a structured UI model for Web and mobile programming. We are the same team who developed ZK. With Rikulo, we'd like to take a step further since many things have been changed since we developed ZK in 2005. Also, both Dart and HTML 5 are young. It is an excellent moment to explore the best possible UI architecture for both Web and mobile programming.
For example, we use absolute positioning to give programmers 100% control the layout of UI rather than spending hours to figure out why it fails in certain combination. Another example is "recursive layered structure", such as layout manager and visual effect handling -- rather than ad hoc features targeting specific problems individually.
On the other hand, we don't have many widgets yet. It might be the reason that confused you. As a Apache licensed project, we hope we can have an active community for building widgets and addons, as long as we can really provide a solid and elegant architecture -- it is what we focus now and keep refining.
To access the hardware, you can use Rikulo Gap which is based on Cordova/PhoneGap. To communicate back the server, you can use Web socket or HttpRequest. We will have more advanced support for jsonizing, caching and communicating Dart objects between client and server, but it is not ready yet.
Technically, there is no limitation. Of course, the current number of widgets is definitely not enough, but it will get more in the near future. Furthermore, you always can create them with HTML 5 (and contribute back). However, for mobile applications, one thing you have to keep in mind: the performance won't be as good as the apps written in Objective C. The good is Rikulo is cross platform and your app can be accessed with Web browsers and as a native app.
I've been checking out the Nitrogen Project which is supposed to be the most mature web development framework for Erlang.
Erlang, as a language, is extremely impressive. However, with regards to Nitrogen, what I am not too keen about is using Erlang's rather uncommon syntax (unless you're native in PROLOG) to build UIs.
What is your experience with it as opposed to other mainstream web frameworks such as Django or Rails?
I've done very little with Nitrogen so far, but I've been monitoring the mailing list for months, so I think I have something useful to say about it.
To your concern about the syntax of Erlang and the Nitrogen framework, I'd respond that that sounds like a pure case of unfamiliarity, rather than unsuitability. Objectively, HTML is not a beautiful language, and it has plenty of quirks. You're used to this now, so it doesn't seem so bad. Give Nitrogen/Erlang a chance and you may find that you get used to it soon enough, too.
To your question about comparison to other languages and frameworks, I'd say the biggest difference is that with Nitrogen, the entire web site is being served directly by the Erlang runtime. Ruby on Rails has such a mode, but it's intended only for testing. Many other frameworks don't even offer the option of running everything within a single long-running process.
Running the entire web application and its underlying infrastructure within a single long-running process has significant implications on how the site runs:
With Apache, each child gets killed off every N connections, where N=500 or so, and you can't say whether a given child will always handle all of a given client's requests. Because HTTP is stateless but web apps almost always require some client state, an Apache child must rebuild its view of client state as part of handling a new connection. By default, this means going back to disk for persistent data stored about that client. There are alternatives like memcached, but these aren't built into the core of a LAMP type stack. With Erlang, nothing is killed off periodically, and Erlang offers standard facilities like Mnesia which provide disk-backed in-memory DBs.
Incidentally, if you're familiar with nginx, it's built on the same principles as Erlang, and it's fast for the same reason. The main difference between nginx and an Erlang instance running a web server is that nginx isn't a programming environment, so it still has to delegate a lot of processing to outside code. That means it shares the same IPC and persistent state problems as Apache.
Because the runtime stays up continuously and is a fully-functional programming environment, you can probably build more parts of your system in Erlang than with a lashed-together LAMP type stack. This magnifies the above benefits. The various parts of your system can coordinate via message passing and Mnesia instead of heavyweight IPC and MySQL, and all the pieces stay up and running continually, leading to less time-consuming state reconstruction.
A dozen or so Apache children all accessing the persistent client state data store is a lock-based hairball. The frameworks all handle locking and such for you transparently, but what they can't hide is the time it takes to do all this correctly.
Erlang is an impure functional language, which implies but does not require data purity; it is also built with multiprocessing in mind, going clear down to the core of the runtime design. These two facts mean you're less likely to spend time waiting on locks in an Erlang based server than one naively built on one of the other frameworks. It is certainly possible to optimize away lock delays in the other systems, but is that really what you want to be doing? Do you want to be on the thousandth team that has to learn how to optimize its web stack after the service becomes popular, or would you rather leave it all up to the tooling so you can spend your time doing something no one else has done yet?
I, too, was once concerned about clunky Erlang syntax. I've built a couple of tools to alleviate its annoyances for everyday web programming, and perhaps you will find one or both of them helpful:
ErlyDTL is an Erlang implementation of the Django Template Language; it's not available in Nitrogen, but it is available in other frameworks, such as Zotonic, Erlang Web, BeepBeep, and Chicago Boss
Chicago Boss is a full-stack Erlang framework that does a lot of code generation so that you can access data fields with function calls instead of Erlang's rather verbose record syntax (e.g. Person:name() instead of Person#person.name)
Note that Nitrogen does not include a database layer, so it's not really comparable to Rails or Django. For a comprehensive comparison of the database-driven frameworks, check out my answer to this StackOverflow question:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1822518/current-state-of-erlang-web-development-frameworks-template-languages/2898271#2898271
I would check out Webmachine if I were you. It is quite simple, fast, and leaves the interface up to you.
Erlang Web should also be considered mature. It is an MVC framework, whereas Nitrogen is more event based. It's a matter of preference.
I haven't used the other tools mentioned here except Webmachine, which I think it's a wonderful tool, but it is not a web framework like the others. It is as HTTP processor, and is ideal for building a restful interfaces.
I would also suggest you give the Erlang syntax a chance. Erlang is one of my favourite languages to use.
For example, I'm running into developers and architects who are scared to death of Rails apps, but love the idea of writing new Grails apps.
From what I've seen, there is a LOT of resource overhead that goes into using the JVM to support languages such as Groovy, JRuby and Jython instead of straight Ruby or Python.
Ruby and Python can both be interpreted on just about any OS, so I don't see any "write once run anywhere" advantage... why bring the hulking JVM along with you?
Java is a much, much more mature platform, with a lot of existing class libraries that could be "dropped in" and used, than, say, Ruby or Python (or even Perl, for that matter). So for people who like using existing code, rather than writing everything themselves, Java is a huge win.
For example, recently I've been looking for something like JAXB for Python or Ruby. In the end, I ended up using JRuby just because I haven't found any mature, widely-used XML-binding libraries.
The huge advantage of writing code (in any language) for the JVM is that it's usually very easy to tap into the enormous wealth of mature Java libraries out there, if necessary.
And I don't know where you got this idea of a "hulking" JVM with a huge resource overhead. The JIT tends to produce code that is quite fast, and the core JVM is anything but huge by today's standards. It does tend to have a huge memory footprint when running, but that's because modern machines have a lot of RAM and the GC works best when it has a lot of RAM to play with. If desired, the GC can be fine-tuned to hell and back to be more conservative.
As someone else put it: "The best thing about Groovy is that I don't have to use Java. The second best thing about Groovy is that I can use Java".
An assumption that seems to be built into the question is that new projects are greenfield projects. Many organizations have made a huge investment in Java over the last decade+ and require any new project to work within the existing (internal) code ecosystem. As pointed out, there's a huge bonus in all the publicly available Java libraries (whether free/OSS or commercial), but the need to work with existing code and even as a component within an existing system is at least as important (if not more so) to large organizations.
A lot also comes down to the maturity and capability of the platform, which is to say the JVM and everything that comes with it (the entire Java ecosystem). A few examples off the top of my head:
You can plug a remote debugger into a running JVM and get all kinds of information about a running application that is simply impossible with Python, Ruby, etc. Going a step further, there's JMX, a standard way to write code so that objects can be monitored and even tweaked in a live application. Take a look at JConsole and see if you don't drool just a little (despite the ugliness of the interface).
Going even further in this direction, there's OSGi, a standard for writing highly modular code that can be deployed, started, stopped, and even upgraded in a live application. With OSGi you break a large application into many smaller "bundles" which can then be maintained (deployed, started/stopped, upgraded) separately. This is a really big deal in large applications, or any applications that need to remain running at all times.
The platform has very good support for asynchronous, reliable messaging. You get JMS as a baseline, and many excellent and powerful libraries built on it for doing complicated things with very little code (cf. Apache Camel, ServiceMix, Mule, and many others). This is another feature that's extremely valuable in larger applications or those which must run within a larger code universe.
The JVM has real (OS-level) threading, while Python et al. are very limited in this regard (notoriously so). (That being said, shared state concurrency -- threading -- is the wrong approach; cf. Erlang, Alice, Mozart/Oz, etc.)
There are numerous JVM choices beyond the standard Sun implementations, like JRockit, IBM's JVM, etc. This is a developing area with other languages -- Python has Jython, Iron Python, even PyPy and Stackless; Ruby has JRuby, Rubinius, and others -- but as good as these are they can't match the maturity found in the various JVM offerings.
All that being said, I really don't like Java the language and avoid it as much as possible. These days with all the excellent alternative languages for the JVM I don't have to. Groovy gets my vote for its accessibility and tight integration with the platform (and even the language), and because of Grails, which I sometimes like to call "Rails for grownups". I like other JVM languages better, particularly Clojure and Scala, but these aren't as accessible to the average programmer. Scala is popping up a lot lately, though, especially thanks to its high profile use at Twitter, so there's hope for interesting and truly excellent languages making it in larger environments. But that's another topic.
why bring to hulking JVM along with you?
JVM isn't bloated, nor is it slow. on the contrary, it's a lean, fast, deeply optimized VM. Unfortunately, it's optimized for static OOP languages.
Still, good compilers targeting JVM do create good performing programs. I don't know about JRuby; but Jython's goal is to be all-around faster than regular C Python, and they're getting close (it's already faster at several important use cases).
Remember that a good JIT (like those for JVM) can apply some optimizations unavailable on static C compilers, getting faster code from them isn't a pipe dream. Of course, a VM optimized for your language should be faster than a 'not-really-generic' VM like JVM; but there's the maturity issue: JVM has a lot of work done there, while JITs for Ruby and Python aren't anywhere near.
Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any better generic bytecode VM. Microsoft's CLI suffers from similar limitations as JVM (ironPython is much slower and heavier than JPython). The best candidate seems to be LLVM. Does anybody know why isn't there more dynamic languages over LLVM? I've seen a couple of Scheme compilers, but seem to have several problems.
Groovy is NOT an interpreted language, it is a dynamic language. The groovy compiler produces JVM bytecode that runs inside the JVM just like any other java class. In this sense, groovy is just like java, simply adding syntax to the java language that is meaningful only to developers and not to the JVM.
Developer productivity, ease and flexibility of syntax make groovy attractive to the java ecosystem - ruby or python would be as attractive if they resulted in java bytecode (see jython).
Java developers are not really scared of ruby; as a matter of fact many quickly embrace groovy or jython both close to ruby and python. What they don't care about is leaving such an amazing platform (java) for a less performant, less scalable even less used language such as ruby (for all its merits).
The big knock on RoR is that it isn't scalable and hard to deploy. By using the Java platform, you can leverage your existing infrastructure.
grails war
Produces a war file that is easily deployed on Glassfish, Jboss, etc.
Ruby and Python can both be
interpreted on just about any OS, so I
don't see any "write once run
anywhere" advantage... why bring the
hulking JVM along with you?
Mostly because you want to take advantage of the HUGE existing ecosystem of Java libraries, APIs and products, which dwarfs anything available for Ruby or Python, especially in the enterprise domain.
Also, keep in mind that JRuby and Jython are faster in a lot of benchmarks than the regular (C implementations) of the languages, especially Ruby (even Ruby 1.9).
Having multiple languages targeting the same virtual machine has a lot of benefits, such as leveraging a common infrastructure, code reuse, shared APIs, the ability to use whatever language is conceptually best for you, or for a specific problem domain, etc.
The same things happens in the .NET space, with multiple languages targeting the CLR. The Parrot (vaporware) VM project also aims to the same thing, and it's a stated goal of the LLVM project too.
The reason is Hotspot.
It is an engineering tour de force.
the other reason not many mentioned is existing infrastructure related to jvm - if you already have a server running java stuff, why not use it instead of bringing in yet another platform (like rails)?
I've encountered this and also been baffled by it, and here's my theory.
Enterprise software is full of Java programmers. Like programmers of all stripes, many Java programmers are convinced that their language is the fastest, the most flexible and the easiest to use--they're not too familiar with other languages but are convinced that those who practice them must be savages and barbarians, because any enlightened person would, of course, use Java.
These people have built vast, complicated Java infrastructures: rube-goldberg machines of frameworks and auto-generated code full of byzantine inheritance structures and very, very large XML files.
So, when someone comes along and says "Hey! Let's use a C interpreted language! It's fast and has neat libraries and is much quicker for scripting and prototyping!" The Java guy is firstly like "I have to run a make file to configure this? QUEL HORREUR!" Then the reality of having to deploy and host this on servers that are running dated OSes and dated versions of Tomcat and nothing else starts to set in.
"Hey, I know! There's a java version of this interpreted language! It may break down in the fast lane on the bridge in rush-hour, and it sometimes catches on fire, but I can get Tomcat to run it. I don't have to dirty my hands with learning non-java stuff, and I can shoehorn it into the existing infrastructure! Win!"
So, is this the "right" reason for choosing a java implementation of a scripting language? Probably not. Depends on your definition of "right". But, I suspect that it's the reason they're chosen more often than snobs like me would like to believe.