MQTT higher QoS on subscriber - mqtt

If I have a publisher sending a message to my MQTT broker with QoS 1 (at least once delivery) and a subscriber with QoS 2 (exactly once delivery), is it possible for the subscriber to still receive duplicate messages?
My concern is that the publisher could send duplicate messages to the broker (since QoS 1 states that is possible) and then the broker would view them all as different messages and forward all of them on to the subscriber. Is this how MQTT brokers work? Or are they smart enough to realize the duplicate messages received from the publisher are all the same and then just forward one on to the subscriber.

The QoS level is between individual clients and the broker. Subscribers also request a QoS level and the broker grants the subscriber a maximum QoS for a subscription.
The MQTT Spec for v3.1.1 covers how these different QoS levels relate for your example in section 3.8.4:
The QoS of Payload Messages sent in response to a Subscription MUST be the minimum of the QoS of the originally published message and the maximum QoS granted by the Server.
The subscriber might have been granted a maximum of QoS 2 when it subscribed to the topic. But the original publisher uses QoS 1. So the subscriber could receive duplicates of the message that the original publisher sent.

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What mean with mqtt will qos?

MQTT's qos about subscribe and pubulic qos mean when client receive or send message, the service qu.
But the Will QOS mean what?
I know the Will is when the client is abnormal disconnct the Will going to be send to client.
No matter the Will QoS is set to 0 / 1 / 2, it will not affect the accessibility of the connect message between the publisher and the server. The QoS of subscribers subscribing to topic is the QoS between subscribers and servers, which has nothing to do with Will QoS
LastWillQoS can be set differently from message QoS.
For example, your application can use QoS=0 for message delivery, but use LastWillQoS=2 to notify subscribers if the publisher is in abnormal condition.
Please refer to here for more information.
Update 1
from your comments, I realized your actual question comes from the misunderstanding of QoS concept, which is basically an agreement of both publisher and subscriber sides (in your case, broker and subscriber) about the message delivery service quality. In principle, both sides can ask for needed QoS, but the lower one is used for actual message delivery.
In your case, broker has asked for QoS2 for delivery of will message according to your publisher's setting, but to actually deliver the will message by QoS2, your subscriber will also need to ask for QoS2, so that QoS2 agreement can be established.
Added one reference here.

MQTT QOS 2 with multiple QOS 2 subscribers

I am using MQTT V5 in my project and I have a business requirement as follows:
“Publisher shall receive acknowledgment from the subscribers confirming that they have successfully received the publisher’s message”.
Notice that this IS NOT AT ALL the same requirement satisfied by the MQTT request/response pattern introduced in MQTT V5. My publisher DOES NOT need a traditional proper response with data in it. My publisher only needs a receipt acknowledgment to know that its message was received by the subscribers. That’s it, the lighter the communication packets are the better it is for me.
I read the following article:
https://www.emqx.io/blog/introduction-to-mqtt-qos
which includes the following sequence diagram for QoS 2:
I fully understand the acknowledgment sequence when there is only one subscriber as shown in the diagram.
My questions are:
In the case where there are multiple subscribers to the publisher’s topic, ALL of them with QoS 2 subscriptions:
1 - will my publisher receive one PUBCOMP acknowledgment for each subscriber? In another words, will my publisher receive multiple PUBCOMP acks from the broker.
2 - or will the broker send only one PUBCOMP message to my publisher only after it has successfully received PUBCOMP acknowledgments from ALL subscribers? In another words, will the broker send only one PUBCOMP ack to my publisher only after it has successfully delivered the message to all subscribers?
Thanks in advance for you attention to this question.
High QOS is only between one client and the broker at a time, not end to end delivery.
That diagram breaks down if there is an offline client with a persistent subscription to a matching topic. If that was the case with the given diagram then the client would not receive PUBCOMP until that client comes back online (which could be never). This would also mean that it could never publish another message as at QOS2 there can only be one message in flight at a time.
That diagram can not be correct. (It also has the broker storing the message before it's been delivered from the publishing client). It also doesn't handle what happens if the subscribing client subscribes at QOS0 or QOS1

mqtt receiver not getting data

I'm a beginner in MQTT, I think I have misunderstand the concept. I have published a message (ex:m1001) using node red with QOS 1 & 2, the broker received the message. At that time either the subscriber or the receiver is disconnected due to power or internet failure.
When I now reconnect to the broker, I'm not getting the message (ex:m1001) in the subscriber and if I set retain=true, the message gets stored in the broker and it executes the message repeatedly until I clear it manually.
I require the each message is delivered from pub to sub without a failure. How can I achieve this?
QOS applies to both subscribers and publishers and is only between the one client and the broker. This means that if a client publishes a message a QOS 1/2 then the QOS handshake is only between the publisher and the broker. The subscribing clients also need to request QOS 1/2 to get assured delivery
To get messages delivered to the subscribers when they reconnect they need to have subscribed to the topic at QOS 1/2 and make sure the cleanSession flag is set to false when they reconnect.
Retained messages are different and the last retained message will always be delivered to a client when it subscribes to a matching topic until the retained message is cleared (by publishing a null payload with the retained bit set).

MQTT/PAHO block until clientB has received message from clientA

From what I can tell, MQTT QOS is all about Client -> Broker delivery agreements, ie, QOS 1 and 2 can ensure that a published message is received by the broker.
Paho does a good job of blocking based on this basis; mqttClient.publish will block until the QOS defined agreement is completed - between the client publishing and the broker.
However, if I have clientA publish a message intended for clientB, how do I block until clientB has received the message from the broker?
eg:
ClientB->Subscribe("peer-device/ClientB/application/message")
ClientA->Publish("peer-device/ClientB/application/message")
The short answer is you don't
Each client has absolutely no idea if any other clients are subscribed to any given topics and this is by design. MQTT is Pub/Sub, not a point-to-point protocol. Part of the point of Pub/Sub architectures is to fully decouple publishers from subscribers
MQTT QOS covers both publisher to broker and broker to subscriber but as 2 distinctly separate steps. The first leg ensures the message reaches the broker (for QOS 1 or 2) and the second leg ensures that the message reaches any subscribers.

Is message order preserved in MQTT messages?

I wonder if the message sent order is preserved. That is, when a publisher sends a sequence of messages, is each subscriber guaranteed to receive the same sequence as the publisher had sent it? For both clean and persistent sessions?
A summary of the message ordering capabilities in MQTT 3.1.1 can be found in the specification itself here.
In summary:
no guarantees are made about the relative ordering of messages published with different QoS values. (for example, QoS 0 can over take QoS 2 for example as it involves a single packet rather than the 4 packets of the latter).
QoS 0 messages will be delivered in order (albeit messages may get lost)
QoS 2 messages will be delivered in order
QoS 1 allows for message duplicates - it is possible a duplicate will arrive after the first instance of the next message that was published.
QoS 1 ordering can be guaranteed if the client/broker only allow a single message inflight at any time.
when a publisher sends a sequence of messages, is each subscriber guaranteed to receive the same sequence as the publisher had sent it?
This question has already been answered and well accepted but I see an issue with the following statement in the accepted answer.
QoS 2 messages will be delivered in order
As per the documentation, it is mentioned the sequence of packets PUBLISH,PUBREC, PUBREL, PUBCOMP will be maintained per topic across QOS 2 level messages. However, a subscriber can still receive in different order than published by publisher (possible but rare). The same logic is also applicable for QOS 1.
Let's see how:
PUBLISH packet has been send by broker for message m1.
PUBLISH packet has been send by broker for message m2.
PUBREC packet has been send by subscriber for message m1.
PUBREC packet has been send by subscriber for message m2.
PUBREL packet has been send by broker for message m1. But it got dropped.
PUBREL packet has been send by broker for message m2.
PUBCOMP packet has been send by subscriber for message m2.
Timeout for PUBREL packet at the broker has occurred for message m1. Broker will retry for message m1.
Broker re-transmits PUBREL packet for message m1.
PUBCOMP packet has been send by subscriber for message m1.
By above sequence, there is an possibility of the message m2 being processed first at the receiver. However, m1 was published before m2.
See this answer for further details.
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