I am trying Docker for the first time and do not yet have a "mental model". Total beginner.
All the examples that I am looking at have included the --rm flag to run, such as
docker run -it --rm ...
docker container run -it --rm ...
Question:
Why do these commands include the --rm flag? I would think that if I were to go through the trouble of setting up or downloading a container with the good stuff in it, why remove it? I want to keep it to use again.
So, I know I have the wrong idea of Docker.
Containers are merely an instance of the image you use to run them.
The state of mind when creating a containerized app is not by taking a fresh, clean ubuntu container for instance, and downloading the apps and configurations you wish to have in it, and then let it run.
You should treat the container as an instance of your application, but your application is embedded into an image.
The proper usage would be creating a custom image, where you embed all your files, configurations, environment variables etc, into the image. Read more about Dockerfile and how it is done here
Once you did that, you have an image that contains everything, and in order to use your application, you just run the image with proper port settings or other dynamic variables, using docker run <your-image>
Running containers with --rm flag is good for those containers that you use for very short while just to accomplish something, e.g., compile your application inside a container, or just testing something that it works, and then you are know it's a short lived container and you tell your Docker daemon that once it's done running, erase everything related to it and save the disk space.
The flag --rm is used when you need the container to be deleted after the task for it is complete.
This is suitable for small testing or POC purposes and saves the headache for house keeping.
From https://docs.docker.com/engine/reference/run/#clean-up---rm
By default a container’s file system persists even after the container exits. This makes debugging a lot easier (since you can inspect the final state) and you retain all your data by default. But if you are running short-term foreground processes, these container file systems can really pile up. If instead you’d like Docker to automatically clean up the container and remove the file system when the container exits, you can add the --rm flag
In short, it's useful to keep the host clean from stopped and unused containers.
When you run a container from an image using a simple command like (docker run -it ubuntu), it spins up a container. You attach to your container using docker attach container-name (or using exec for different session).
So, when you're within your container and working on it and you type exit or ctrl+z or any other way to come out of the container, other than ctrl+p+q, your container exits. That means that your container has stopped, but it is still available on your disk and you can start it again with : docker start container-name/ID.
But when you run the container with —rm tag, on exit, the container is deleted permanently.
I use --rm when connecting to running containers to perform some actions such as database backup or file copy. Here is an example:
docker run -v $(pwd):/mnt --link app_postgres_1:pg --rm postgres:9.5 pg_dump -U postgres -h pg -f /mnt/docker_pg.dump1 app_db
The above will connect a running container named 'app_postgres_1' and create a backup. Once the backup command completes, the container is fully deleted.
The "docker run rm " command makes us run a new container and later when our work is completed then it is deleted by saving the disk space.
The important thing to note is, the container is just like a class instance and not for data storage. We better delete them once the work is complete. When we start again, it starts fresh.
The question comes then If the container is deleted then what about the data in a container? The data is actually saved in the local system and get linked to it when the container is started. The concept is named as "Volume or shared volume".
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Is it possible to change the settings of docker container like entrypoint, ports or memory-limits without having to delete the container and run using docker run command? Example: docker stop <container_id>, change settings and then docker start <container_id>?
When you use docker run -d image_name, some images tries to initialize from start and as a result I can't use the same volume.
Is it possible to change the settings by stopping the container instead of re-run?
You need to stop, delete, and recreate the container.
# this is absolutely totally 100% normal and routine
docker stop my_container
docker rm my_container
# docker build -t image_name .
docker run -d -p 12345:8000 --name my_container image_name
This isn't specific to Docker. If you run any command in any Unix-like environment and you want to change its command-line parameters or environment variables, you need to stop the process and create a new one. A Docker container is a wrapper around a process with some additional isolation features, and for a great many routine things you're required to delete the container. In cluster container environments like Kubernetes, this is routine enough that changing any property of a Deployment object will cause all of the associated containers (Kubernetes Pods) to get recreated automatically.
There are a handful of Docker commands that exist but are almost never used in normal operation. docker start is among these; just skip over it in the documentation.
When you use docker run -d image_name, some images tries to initialize from start and as a result I can't use the same volume.
In fact, the normal behavior of docker run is that you're always beginning the program from a known "clean" initial state; this is easier to set up as an application developer than trying to recover from whatever state the previous run of the application might have been left in.
If you need to debug the image startup, an easy thing to do is to tell the container to run an interactive shell instead of its default command
docker run --rm -it image_name /bin/sh
(Some images may have bash available which will be more comfortable to work in; some images may require an awkward docker run --entrypoint option.) From this shell you can try to manually run the container startup commands and see what happens. You don't need to worry about damaging the container code in any particular way, since anything you change in this shell will get lost as soon as the container exits.
I am trying Docker for the first time and do not yet have a "mental model". Total beginner.
All the examples that I am looking at have included the --rm flag to run, such as
docker run -it --rm ...
docker container run -it --rm ...
Question:
Why do these commands include the --rm flag? I would think that if I were to go through the trouble of setting up or downloading a container with the good stuff in it, why remove it? I want to keep it to use again.
So, I know I have the wrong idea of Docker.
Containers are merely an instance of the image you use to run them.
The state of mind when creating a containerized app is not by taking a fresh, clean ubuntu container for instance, and downloading the apps and configurations you wish to have in it, and then let it run.
You should treat the container as an instance of your application, but your application is embedded into an image.
The proper usage would be creating a custom image, where you embed all your files, configurations, environment variables etc, into the image. Read more about Dockerfile and how it is done here
Once you did that, you have an image that contains everything, and in order to use your application, you just run the image with proper port settings or other dynamic variables, using docker run <your-image>
Running containers with --rm flag is good for those containers that you use for very short while just to accomplish something, e.g., compile your application inside a container, or just testing something that it works, and then you are know it's a short lived container and you tell your Docker daemon that once it's done running, erase everything related to it and save the disk space.
The flag --rm is used when you need the container to be deleted after the task for it is complete.
This is suitable for small testing or POC purposes and saves the headache for house keeping.
From https://docs.docker.com/engine/reference/run/#clean-up---rm
By default a container’s file system persists even after the container exits. This makes debugging a lot easier (since you can inspect the final state) and you retain all your data by default. But if you are running short-term foreground processes, these container file systems can really pile up. If instead you’d like Docker to automatically clean up the container and remove the file system when the container exits, you can add the --rm flag
In short, it's useful to keep the host clean from stopped and unused containers.
When you run a container from an image using a simple command like (docker run -it ubuntu), it spins up a container. You attach to your container using docker attach container-name (or using exec for different session).
So, when you're within your container and working on it and you type exit or ctrl+z or any other way to come out of the container, other than ctrl+p+q, your container exits. That means that your container has stopped, but it is still available on your disk and you can start it again with : docker start container-name/ID.
But when you run the container with —rm tag, on exit, the container is deleted permanently.
I use --rm when connecting to running containers to perform some actions such as database backup or file copy. Here is an example:
docker run -v $(pwd):/mnt --link app_postgres_1:pg --rm postgres:9.5 pg_dump -U postgres -h pg -f /mnt/docker_pg.dump1 app_db
The above will connect a running container named 'app_postgres_1' and create a backup. Once the backup command completes, the container is fully deleted.
The "docker run rm " command makes us run a new container and later when our work is completed then it is deleted by saving the disk space.
The important thing to note is, the container is just like a class instance and not for data storage. We better delete them once the work is complete. When we start again, it starts fresh.
The question comes then If the container is deleted then what about the data in a container? The data is actually saved in the local system and get linked to it when the container is started. The concept is named as "Volume or shared volume".
So, is there a point in the command "start"? like in "docker start -i albineContainer".
If I do this, I can't really do anything with the albine inside the container, I would have to do a run and create another container with the "-it" command and "sh" after (or "/bin/bash", don't remember it correctly right now).
Is that how it will go most of the times? delete and rebuilt containers and do the command "-it" if you want to do stuff in them? or would it more depend on the Dockerfile, how you define the cmd.
New to Docker in general and trying to understand the basics on how to use it. Thanks for the help.
Running docker run/exec with -it means you run the docker container and attach an interactive terminal to it.
Note that you can also run docker applications without attaching to them, and they will still run in the background.
Docker allows you to run a program (which can be bash, but does not have to be) in an isolated environment.
For example, try running the jenkins docker image: https://hub.docker.com/_/jenkins.
this will create a container, without you having attach to it, and you would still be able to use it.
You can also attach to an existing, running container by using docker exec -it [container_name] bash.
You can also use docker logs to peek at the stdout of a certain docker container, without actually attaching to its shell interactively.
You almost never use docker start. It's only possible to use it in two unusual circumstances:
If you've created a container with docker create, then docker start will run the process you named there. (But it's much more common to use docker run to do both things together.)
If you've stopped a container with docker stop, docker start will run its process again. (But typically you'll want to docker rm the container once you've stopped it.)
Your question and other comments hint at using an interactive shell in an unmodified Alpine container. Neither is a typical practice. Usually you'll take some complete application and its dependencies and package it into an image, and docker run will run that complete packaged application. Tutorials like Docker's Build and run your image go through this workflow in reasonable detail.
My general day-to-day workflow involves building and testing a program outside of Docker. Once I believe it works, then I run docker build and docker run, and docker rm the container once I'm done. I rarely run docker exec: it is a useful debugging tool but not the standard way to interact with a process. docker start isn't something I really ever run.
In some places when I read about Docker containers, I found some people talking that they lose their data (saved inside the container and not a part of volume data) when they restart the container.
I tried to create a simple Ubuntu container like this: docker run -it ubuntu /bin/bash, and created some files inside the container and then restarted it, but my data still there. Why does that actually happen? why do my data still there? Is this something new in the newer versions of Docker or do I have misunderstanding for something?
The data is lost when the container is removed, not when it's stopped or restarted.
Basically, if you do docker ps, if the containers keeps the same id (the big ugly hexadecimal id), the data is not lost.
It gets complicated when somehow your docker containers are not managed by you, but by some kind of automated-managing method. Tools like these usually start new containers if there is failure. In that case you should mount a volume to store your data on the host.
You might want to look at the Container Lifecycle: https://github.com/wsargent/docker-cheat-sheet#lifecycle
docker create creates a container but does not start it.
docker rename allows the container to be renamed.
docker run creates and starts a container in one operation.
docker rm deletes a container.
docker update updates a container's resource limits.
If you do docker rm and docker run again your state will not be there anymore.
If you want a transient container, docker run --rm will remove the container after it stops.
I edited a file in a running docker container and restarted it, unfortunately my last edit was not correct. So every time I start the container with:
docker start <containerId>
It always exits immediately.
Now I can not even modify my edit back, since
docker exec -it <containerId> bash
can only run on a running docker.
The question is how can I change it and restart the container now? Or I had to abandon it and start a new container from an existing image?
You didn't supply any details regarding your container's purpose, or what you modified. Conceptually, you could create the file that needs to be modified in a place on your filesystem and mount that file into the container as a volume when you start it, like:
docker run -it -v /Users/<path_to_file>:<container_path_to_file> <container>
Hovever, this is bad form, as your container loses portability at that point without committing a new image.
Ideally, changes that need to be made inside of a Docker container are made in the Dockerfile, and the container image re-built. This way, your initial, working container state is represented in your Dockerfile code, making your configuration repeatable, portable, and immutable.
The file system of exited containers can still be changed. The preferable way is probably:
docker cp <fixedFile> <containerId>:<brokenFile>
But you can also circumvent docker completely; see here.