Why do OAuth2 access token use expires_in instead of expiring time? - oauth-2.0

I understood why Access Tokens have to be expired (here is the topic), but I am a bit confused about the purpose of the expires_in:
expires_in seems to be less useful than a fixed time, since there are delay in network operations and extra computation as well. Why don't we simply use a standard time (like Unix timestamp or ISO 8601)?
As in that topic, if we are assuming Access Tokens are very short-lived, are we going to "bomb" the OAuth2 server with refresh token for every operation?

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What's the purpose of setting expiry of client token if I can just refresh tokens everytime?

I'm using the Dailymotion API which uses Oauth2, their client tokens expire in 36000 seconds (10 hours), so I thought of creating new tokens for every call with the refresh token URL provided. Also, I didn't find any warnings in the documentation preventing me from doing this, is this a bad practice?
creating a new token on every requests is not the best way to proceed.
During your request, you can check (ex: with a "try") if your access token has expired then request new one with your given refresh token only if necessary.
If you are using a language like PHP, Python, Javascript, ... you can save much time using the available SDKs that already implement these mechanisms.
cf. https://developer.dailymotion.com/tools/sdks/
Yes, it is a bad practice, even though it's feasible. Authorization Servers might impose rate limiting on your client so that at some point you won't be able to refresh the token.
The access token must have expiration time for security reasons. If anyone manages to get hold of that token they will be able to use it only for the specified time. Good practice is to have as short expiration times as possible - e.g. 5 or 15 minutes. The 10 hours used by Dailymotion is a bit much, in my opinion, but it's their decision.
Refresh tokens should be kept securely by your client and you usually need a client secret to make a refresh request. This means that generally it's much harder for an attacker to get hold of a refresh token (or use it once they manage to steal it).

How can a client make use of expires_in?

Observing OAuth2, expires_in seems to be a common parameter returned alongside an access token. The value of expires_in is the number of seconds remaining until the access token expires. I'm having trouble seeing how client applications would be able to make use of this in a convenient way. Expecting clients to count down the seconds after receiving an access token seems annoying at best. Wouldn't it be easier to set something like expires_at with a future timestamp when it expires?
Your proposal of expires_at would be almost impossible to manage when client and server are not synchronized in time. But if I'm wrong, please, correct me.
You have two options here:
Calculate if the token has expired by subtracting the expires_in seconds and the seconds spent from where you requested the token until now.
Get the token info (/oauth/tokeninfo, /tokens/{token}, or whatever, depending on the OAuth2 provider, and check if it is still valid and has not expired.
Both approaches have clear pros and cons, but I do, personally, prefer the second one.

Storing OAuth 2.0 token in cache and validating next request by compare it

We are securing our webAPI using 'OAuth'. All request comes with OAuth token in header. To validate the token, we use Identity provider's public key. All works well.
I have a question. I believe this is not the right (and secure way), but don't know why.
In place of validating it with the public key every time, we can validate it once and for next subsequent requests, Why can't we store this token in cache (with emailId as key) and for all subsequent hits, we can compare it with the token store in cache.
Thanks in advance.
That's all fine and most Resource Servers would do exactly this. Typically one would calculate and store the hash of the access token for storage optimization reasons.
Note that you can do this safely assuming there's some lifetime that you can extract from the token and you will store the (hash of the) token not beyond that lifetime.
I think it depends on the character of the access token. If the token has a fixed life time that cannot change and its validity is verified just by checking its cryptographic signature (something like a JSON Web Token), then you can safely cache the verification results (if it brings you some speed advantage).
But access tokens are often revocable and it's necessary to validate them at the authorization server. The endpoint for access token info and verification didn't use to be part of OAuth2 spec, but it's in RFC now as "Introspection endpoint" - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7662
Still, if there are many requests coming, even revocable tokens may be safe to cache for a short period of time (few seconds). But it depends on the character of your application.

Should an oAuth server give the same accessToken to a same client request?

I am developing an oAuth2 server and I've stumbled upon this question.
Lets suppose a scenario where my tokens are set to expire within one hour. On this timeframe, some client goes through the implicit auth fifty times using the same client_id and same redirect_uri. Basically same everything.
Should I give it the same accessToken generated on the first request on the subsequent ones until it expires or should I issue a new accessToken on every request?
The benefits of sending the same token is that I won't leave stale and unused tokens of a client on the server, minimizing the window for an attacker trying to guess a valid token.
I know that I should rate-limit things and I am doing it, but in the case of a large botnet attack from thousands of different machines, some limits won't take effect immediately.
However, I am not sure about the downsides of this solution and that's why I came here. Is it a valid solution?
I would rather say - no.
Reasons:
You should NEVER store access tokens in plain text on the Authorization Server side. Access tokens are credentials and should be stored hashed. Salting might not be necessary since they are generated strings anyway. See OAuth RFC point 10.3.
Depending how you handle subsequent requests - an attacker who knows that a certain resource owner is using your service and repeat requests for the used client id. That way an attacker will be able to impersonate the resource owner. If you really return the same token then at least ensure that you authenticate the resource owner every time.
What about the "state" parameter? Will you consider requests to be the "same" if the state parameter is different? If no then a botnet attack will simply use a different state every time and force you to issue new tokens.
As an addition - generally defending against a botnet attack via application logic is very hard. The server exposing your AS to the internet should take care for that. On application layer you should take care that it does not go down from small-bandwidth attacks.
You can return the same access_token if it is still valid, there's no issue with that. The only downside may be in the fact that you use the Implicit flow and thus repeatedly send the - same, valid - access token in a URL fragment which is considered less secure than using e.g. the Authorization Code flow.
As a thumb rule never reuse keys, this will bring additional security in the designed system in case of key capture
You can send different access token when requested after proper authentication and also send refresh token along your access token.
Once your access token expires, you should inform user about that and user should re-request for new access token providing one-time-use refresh token previously provided to them skipping need for re-authentication, and you should provide new access token and refresh token.
To resist attack with fake refresh token, you should blacklist them along with their originating IP after few warnings.
PS: Never use predictable tokens. Atleast make it extremely difficult to brute force attacks by using totally random, long alpha-numeric strings. I would suggest bin2hex(openssl_random_pseudo_bytes(512)), if you are using php.

How should I store a 3rd party API authentication token in a Rails app?

I am looking at using Savon to consume a SOAP API. One of the requirements of this particular API is that an authentication token be supplied in each request to the API. That is, apart from the request that returns the authentication token itself. That call just needs a username and password. The token expires after 20mins of inactivity.
My question is, what is the best practice for storing this token? It's surely not advisable to make two requests every time, one for the token and one for the actual request?
I was considering storing it in a session variable but this would mean generating a new token for each visitor, which I presume is not necessary. However, it would mean I could set a 20 minute expiry on it very easily though.
If I store it in the database, how would I know whether or not it will have expired before making the call to the API, without a lot of extra logic?
Or, should I store it in the database and simply make a background call to the API every few minutes to ensure the token never expires?
Or am I barking up completely the wrong tree?!
Thanks for any advice.

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