lost in debug ... can't stop execution - stack

I am trying to understand why an installation file hangs up using Windbg, but I am at a point where I can't stop the execution.
As background, I had already been able to install this program on the same PC, but for some reason I had then uninstalled, and now I can't re-install it (I tried to clean up everything from the old installation, incl. registry). Now this setup.exe starts and stays idle among the running processes without doing anything.
But let's go to the actual question. I am trying to use Windbg for the first time (I only had some practice with the old 8086 debug at DOS-time :-), so please bear with me if I'm asking something straightforward).
I have tracked the code up to a point where I have a RET code. I am able to stop the debugger at the RET instruction, but as soon as I "step into" the RET, the execution starts and does not stop, while I was expecting it to just go to the instruction following the previous CALL. From how I see things, it seems that after the RET the execution goes somewhere else ... how is it possible? Also, just before the RET there is a SYSCALL that I don't fully understand ... can it have an impact?
This is the portion of the code I am examining at the moment:
ntdll!NtTerminateThread:
00007ff9`fc8b5b20 4c8bd1 mov r10,rcx
00007ff9`fc8b5b23 b853000000 mov eax,53h
00007ff9`fc8b5b28 f604250803fe7f01 test byte ptr [SharedUserData+0x308 (00000000`7ffe0308)],1
00007ff9`fc8b5b30 7503 jne ntdll!NtTerminateThread+0x15 (00007ff9`fc8b5b35)
00007ff9`fc8b5b32 0f05 syscall
00007ff9`fc8b5b34 c3 ret
00007ff9`fc8b5b35 cd2e int 2Eh
00007ff9`fc8b5b37 c3 ret
I am stuck at the first RET instruction, at address 5b34.
At this time, this is the stack call:
00000000`0203fc38 00007ff9`fc86c63e ntdll!NtTerminateThread+0x14
00000000`0203fc40 00007ff9`fc8d903a ntdll!RtlExitUserThread+0x4e
00000000`0203fc80 00007ff9`fc86c5c5 ntdll!DbgUiRemoteBreakin+0x5a
00000000`0203fcb0 00000000`00000000 ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x45
so my understanding is that execution should continue at address 00007ff9`fc86c63e. However, even if I add a BP at this address, or if I just go for a trace, the execution continues and keeps running some idle loop until I hit the "pause" button in windbg, after which it resume at a completely different address.
In case the registers are relevant, here are some of them:
rax: 353000
rbx: 0
rcx: 0
rdx: 0
rsp: 203fc38
rdi: 7ff9c8d8fe0
rip: 7ff9fc8b5b34
So, eventually, where am I wrong? How can I see where the code goes after this RET?
Thanks in advance for any help,
Bob

when a thread exits the execution wont return to the return address
the system is free to schedule another thread that is ready in the process
the stack shows NtTerminateThread on the stack it is a function that does not return
__declspec noreturn foo (...) ;
btw when you say it goes elsewhere do you mean the app keeps running and is not terminated if so hit ctrl+break and check what other threads are doing
ie if usermode ~*kb should show all the threads callstack
answering the comment about where it goes
process is a collection of threads
each thread has a stack and each thread gets a bit of time to execute from the scheduler (thread quantum)
each thread that has a lower priority can be preempted by threads xxxx ,yyy ,zzz with higher priorities by interrupts by apcs , dpcs etc
when a thread has completed its quantum or is preempted by some vip cavalcade happening to travel on the road that this poor thread is walking
a trap is made _KTRAP and this poor threads position EIP is filled into it and put in a waiting threads barricade
when the vip cavalcade's dust has settled police open the barricade and let the poor thread walk from where it stopped
for such gory details you may need a kernel debugging setup and may need to control your process from a kernel debugger
when you hit the return os sees the thread is dead and has no return address
so it checks the !ready threads and selects the highest priority thread and provides it a quantum to enjoy
so before hitting the return address check what all other threads are doing in your app set an appropriate break on threads of interest and hit the return when the other thread executes its quantum your break will get hit

You're looking at the wrong thread!
From the partial output you supplied seems like you're attaching to a running process (rather than start it from the debugger). To break into a running process the debugger injects a thread into the target process that basically contains a hardcoded int 3 instruction and not much more.
It does it by calling ntdll!RtlpCreateUserThreadEx (the internal undocumented native parallel of CreateRemoteThread) supplying ntdll!DbgUiRemoteBreakin as the start address for the new thread.
The sole purpose of this synthetic thread is to generate the breakpoint exception. This exception causes the operating system to stop running the target process and passes control to the debugger. After it does this it's not needed anymore and it commits suicide.
What you're supposed to do at this point is probably switch to your thread of interest using ~s command, set breakpoints and then continue execution.
If try to step through this synthetic thread it will just end, and then the process will continue doing whatever it was doing before you broke into it, which is pretty much the opposite of what you want,
That's what this stack means:
00000000`0203fc38 00007ff9`fc86c63e ntdll!NtTerminateThread+0x14
00000000`0203fc40 00007ff9`fc8d903a ntdll!RtlExitUserThread+0x4e
00000000`0203fc80 00007ff9`fc86c5c5 ntdll!DbgUiRemoteBreakin+0x5a
00000000`0203fcb0 00000000`00000000 ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x45
ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart is the real user-mode entry point of all user-mode threads and you can see that it just called ntdll!DbgUiRemoteBreakin after which you continued a bit until the thread finally ends itself.

Related

Handing off a piece of work to a thread and waiting for it to accept

My application works as follows:
the worker-threads initialize and begin waiting in pthread_cond_wait()
the main thread connects to DB and starts handing over one row at a time to the proper worker
Because of the DB-driver internals, the next row can not be read until the current one is extracted, so the main thread has to wait for the worker to "accept" the row.
I achieve this by calling pthread_cond_wait() inside the main thread -- waiting for a pthread_signal() from the worker. This works cleanly -- on both Linux and FreeBSD -- but usually takes much longer on Linux. Whereas I consistently process the entire 1.6M rows in about 27 seconds on FreeBSD, on Linux it usually takes over 2 minutes. Except sometimes the Linux box shows the same time...
The code is compiled from the same source and the program talks to the same DB-server. If anything, the Linux box is located on the same LAN as the DB, whereas the FreeBSD machine connects via VPN (so it should be a bit slower). But it is the wide inconsistency of the Linux results that bothers me, and I suspect the thread-coordination...
Here is what I have now:
MAIN THREAD WORKER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
get new row
figure out, which worker it belongs to lock my mutex
lock the worker's mutex go into pthread_cond_wait
signal the worker extract the row's data
unlock the worker's mutex signal the main thread
go into pthread_cond_wait unlock the mutex
go on back to getting the next row go on to process the row's data
Is there a better way? Thanks!
If reading the next row must be serial anyway, why are you delegating this to the worker? As the main thread has to wait anyway, have the main thread do the extraction and have the hand-off occur as soon as the row has been sufficiently extracted that the master can proceed to the next row.
Other than that, you will need to provide code, as your description is incomplete, as would be any question of this nature submitted without code.
It looks like your problem is that you are calling pthread_cond_wait() without the mutex locked in the main thread. This means that there's a race-condition: if the worker thread wakes up, extracts the data and signals the condition before the parent executes pthread_cond_wait(), the wakeup will be lost.
What you should have is some shared state paired with the condition variable, like this:
Main Thread:
get_new_row();
worker = decide_worker();
pthread_mutex_lock(&mutex);
/* Signal worker that data is available */
flag[worker] = 1;
pthread_cond_signal(&cond);
/* Wait for worker to extract it */
while (flag[worker] == 1)
pthread_cond_wait(&cond, &mutex):
pthread_mutex_unlock(&mutex);
Worker Thread:
pthread_mutex_lock(&mutex);
/* Wait for data to be available */
while (flag[worker] == 0)
pthread_cond_wait(&cond, &mutex):
extract_row_data();
/* Signal main thread that extraction is complete */
flag[worker] = 0;
pthread_cond_signal(&cond);
pthread_mutex_unlock(&mutex);

pthread_create and EAGAIN

I got an EAGAIN when trying to spawn a thread using pthread_create. However, from what I've checked, the threads seem to have been terminated properly.
What determines the OS to give EAGAIN when trying to create a thread using pthread_create? Would it be possible that unclosed sockets/file handles play a part in causing this EAGAIN (i.e they share the same resource space)?
And lastly, is there any tool to check resource usage, or any functions that can be used to see how many pthread objects are active at the time?
Okay, found the answer. Even if pthread_exit or pthread_cancel is called, the parent process still need to call pthread_join to release the pthread ID, which will then become recyclable.
Putting a pthread_join(tid, NULL) in the end did the trick.
edit (was not waitpid, but rather pthread_join)
As a practical matter EAGAIN is almost always related to running out of memory for the process. Often this has to do with the stack size allocated for the thread which you can adjust with pthread_attr_setstacksize(). But there are process limits to how many threads you can run. You can query the hard and soft limits with getrlimit() using RLIMIT_NPROC as the first parameter.
There are quite a few questions here dedicated to keeping track of threads, their number, whether they are dead or alive, etc. Simply put, the easiest way to keep track of them is to do it yourself through some mechanism you code, which can be as simple as incrementing and decrementing a global counter (protected by a mutex) or something more elaborate.
Open sockets or other file descriptors shouldn't cause pthread_create() to fail. If you reached the maximum for descriptors you would have already failed before creating the new thread and the new thread would have already have had to be successfully created to open more of them and thus could not have failed with EAGAIN.
As per my observation if one of the parent process calls pthread_join(), and chilled processes are trying to release the thread by calling pthread_exit() or pthread_cancel() then system is not able to release that thread properly. In that case, if pthread_detach() is call immediately after successful call of pthread_create() then this problem has been solved. A snapshot is here -
err = pthread_create(&(receiveThread), NULL, &receiver, temp);
if (err != 0)
{
MyPrintf("\nCan't create thread Reason : %s\n ",(err==EAGAIN)?"EAGAUIN":(err==EINVAL)?"EINVAL":(err==EPERM)?"EPERM":"UNKNOWN");
free(temp);
}
else
{
threadnumber++;
MyPrintf("Count: %d Thread ID: %u\n",threadnumber,receiveThread);
pthread_detach(receiveThread);
}
Another potential cause: I was getting this problem (EAGAIN on pthread_create) because I had forgotten to call pthread_attr_init on the pthread_attr_t I was trying to initialize my thread with.

Debugging Erlang heart timeouts

I use the heart program to restart an Erlang node when it becomes unresponsive. However, I am finding it hard to understand why the node freezes. SASL logs don't show any errors, and my own logs don't seem to show anything remarkable happening at those times. Can anybody give advice on debugging this sort of thing?
By default the heart program issues a SIGKILL to kill off the unresponsive VM so it can quickly start a new one. This makes getting any useful information about the VM pretty much impossible. Something I've tried in the past is to patch the heart program to avoid the hard kill and instead get the VM to create a crash dump and a coredump. I used a patch like this (this one is for Erlang/OTP R14B02):
--- erts/etc/common/heart.c.orig 2011-04-17 12:11:24.000000000 -0400
+++ erts/etc/common/heart.c 2011-04-17 12:12:36.000000000 -0400
## -559,10 +559,11 ##
int res;
if(heart_beat_kill_pid != 0){
pid = (pid_t) heart_beat_kill_pid;
- res = kill(pid,SIGKILL);
+ res = kill(pid,SIGUSR1);
+ sleep(4);
for(i=0; i < 5 && res == 0; ++i){
sleep(1);
- res = kill(pid,SIGKILL);
+ res = kill(pid,i < 2 ? SIGQUIT : SIGKILL);
}
if(errno != ESRCH){
print_error("Unable to kill old process, "
As you can see, with this patch heart will first issue a SIGUSR1 to try to get the VM to create a crash dump. Since this can take awhile, heart then sleeps for 4 seconds. You might have to increase this sleep time if you're not getting full crash dumps. After that, heart then tries twice to issue a SIGQUIT with the hope of getting a coredump, and if that fails, issues a SIGKILL.
Note that this patch will slow down heart's VM restart due to the time required to wait for the crash dumps and coredumps. If you use it in production, be aware of this limitation.
You could try to call erlang:halt/1 from your HEART_COMMAND thus creating a crash dump from the unresponsive node.
You can try using the erl_call tool with e.g. -a erlang halt 123.
If the erlang node can't respond to this is also interesting information.
Did you try increasing `HEART_BEAT_TIMEOUT? Maybe the node is just bogged down a bit an misses the timeout but doesn't freeze.
If you have any idea of why it is freezing you could try to trace the module using dbg.
http://www.erlang.org/doc/man/dbg.html
In short try
dbg:tracer(), dbg:p(all,c), dbg:tpl(Module, Function, x).
If you want to stop this tracing issue
dbg:ctpl()
See documentation for more info.
Note: Change Module and Function to whatever you want to trace, leave x as it is. You can also skip Function and only give Module, x.
Warning: Running this on a live system can be dangerous as the amount of information that is going to be printed to the shell can be enormous.

trouble reading from __global memory after atom_inc in OpenCL

OpenCL doesn't have a global barrier that will stop all threads, so I'm trying to create a work around with the following code:
void barrier(__global uint* scratch) {
uint nThreads = get_global_size(0);
atom_inc(scratch);
/* this loop never terminates */
while(scratch[0] < nThreads) {
continue;
}
}
The idea is that each thread loops until all of them increment that one piece of memory.
However, the value read from scratch[0] never changes for the threads once it's been read, and it loops forever. I know it's being incremented because it's the correct value when I read it back to the host.
Is the global memory being locally cached? What's going on here?
Found the problem: the order in which work groups are executed is implementation defined. This means that some threads might start only after others have finished.
In the code I gave, the work groups that are started first will loop forever waiting on the the others to hit the 'barrier'. And the work groups that would be started later won't ever start because they're waiting for the first ones to finish.
If the implementation (I'm on a Radeon 5750, using Stream SDK 2.2) executes all work groups concurrently, then it probably wouldn't be an issue. But that's not the case for my setup.

pthreads : pthread_cond_signal() from within critical section

I have the following piece of code in thread A, which blocks using pthread_cond_wait()
pthread_mutex_lock(&my_lock);
if ( false == testCondition )
pthread_cond_wait(&my_wait,&my_lock);
pthread_mutex_unlock(&my_lock);
I have the following piece of code in thread B, which signals thread A
pthread_mutex_lock(&my_lock);
testCondition = true;
pthread_cond_signal(&my_wait);
pthread_mutex_unlock(&my_lock);
Provided there are no other threads, would it make any difference if pthread_cond_signal(&my_wait) is moved out of the critical section block as shown below ?
pthread_mutex_lock(&my_lock);
testCondition = true;
pthread_mutex_unlock(&my_lock);
pthread_cond_signal(&my_wait);
My recommendation is typically to keep the pthread_cond_signal() call inside the locked region, but probably not for the reasons you think.
In most cases, it doesn't really matter whether you call pthread_cond_signal() with the lock held or not. Ben is right that some schedulers may force a context switch when the lock is released if there is another thread waiting, so your thread may get switched away before it can call pthread_cond_signal(). On the other hand, some schedulers will run the waiting thread as soon as you call pthread_cond_signal(), so if you call it with the lock held, the waiting thread will wake up and then go right back to sleep (because it's now blocked on the mutex) until the signaling thread unlocks it. The exact behavior is highly implementation-specific and may change between operating system versions, so it isn't anything you can rely on.
But, all of this looks past what should be your primary concern, which is the readability and correctness of your code. You're not likely to see any real-world performance benefit from this kind of micro-optimization (remember the first rule of optimization: profile first, optimize second). However, it's easier to think about the control flow if you know that the set of waiting threads can't change between the point where you set the condition and send the signal. Otherwise, you have to think about things like "what if thread A sets testCondition=TRUE and releases the lock, and then thread B runs and sees that testCondition is true, so it skips the pthread_cond_wait() and goes on to reset testCondition to FALSE, and then finally thread A runs and calls pthread_cond_signal(), which wakes up thread C because thread B wasn't actually waiting, but testCondition isn't true anymore". This is confusing and can lead to hard-to-diagnose race conditions in your code. For that reason, I think it's better to signal with the lock held; that way, you know that setting the condition and sending the signal are atomic with respect to each other.
On a related note, the way you are calling pthread_cond_wait() is incorrect. It's possible (although rare) for pthread_cond_wait() to return without the condition variable actually being signaled, and there are other cases (for example, the race I described above) where a signal could end up awakening a thread even though the condition isn't true. In order to be safe, you need to put the pthread_cond_wait() call inside a while() loop that tests the condition, so that you call back into pthread_cond_wait() if the condition isn't satisfied after you reacquire the lock. In your example it would look like this:
pthread_mutex_lock(&my_lock);
while ( false == testCondition ) {
pthread_cond_wait(&my_wait,&my_lock);
}
pthread_mutex_unlock(&my_lock);
(I also corrected what was probably a typo in your original example, which is the use of my_mutex for the pthread_cond_wait() call instead of my_lock.)
The thread waiting on the condition variable should keep the mutex locked, and the other thread should always signal with the mutex locked. This way, you know the other thread is waiting on the condition when you send the signal. Otherwise, it's possible the waiting thread won't see the condition being signaled and will block indefinitely waiting on it.
Condition variables are typically used like this:
#include <stdio.h>
#include <pthread.h>
#include <unistd.h>
pthread_mutex_t lock = PTHREAD_MUTEX_INITIALIZER;
pthread_cond_t cond = PTHREAD_COND_INITIALIZER;
int go = 0;
void *threadproc(void *data) {
printf("Sending go signal\n");
pthread_mutex_lock(&lock);
go = 1;
pthread_cond_signal(&cond);
pthread_mutex_unlock(&lock);
}
int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {
pthread_t thread;
pthread_mutex_lock(&lock);
printf("Waiting for signal to go\n");
pthread_create(&thread, NULL, &threadproc, NULL);
while(!go) {
pthread_cond_wait(&cond, &lock);
}
printf("We're allowed to go now!\n");
pthread_mutex_unlock(&lock);
pthread_join(thread, NULL);
return 0;
}
This is valid:
void *threadproc(void *data) {
printf("Sending go signal\n");
go = 1;
pthread_cond_signal(&cond);
}
However, consider what's happening in main
while(!go) {
/* Suppose a long delay happens here, during which the signal is sent */
pthread_cond_wait(&cond, &lock);
}
If the delay described by that comment happens, pthread_cond_wait will be left waiting—possibly forever. This is why you want to signal with the mutex locked.
Both are correct, however for reactivity issues, most schedulers give hand to another thread when a lock is released. I you don't signal before unlocking, your waiting thread A is not in the ready list and thous will not be scheduled until B is scheduled again and call pthread_cond_signal().
The Open Group Base Specifications Issue 7 IEEE Std 1003.1, 2013 Edition (which as far as I can tell is the official pthread specification) says this on the matter:
The pthread_cond_broadcast() or pthread_cond_signal() functions may be
called by a thread whether or not it currently owns the mutex that
threads calling pthread_cond_wait() or pthread_cond_timedwait() have
associated with the condition variable during their waits; however, if
predictable scheduling behavior is required, then that mutex shall be
locked by the thread calling pthread_cond_broadcast() or
pthread_cond_signal().
To add my personal experience, I was working on an application that had code where the conditional variable was destroyed (and the memory containing it freed) by the thread that was woken up. We found that on a multi-core device (an iPad Air 2) the pthread_cond_signal() could actually crash sometimes if it was outside the mutex lock, as the waiter woke up and destroyed the conditional variable before the pthread_cond_signal had completed. This was quite unexpected.
So I would definitely veer towards the 'signal inside the lock' version, it appears to be safer.
Here is nice write up about the conditional variables: Techniques for Improving the Scalability of Applications Using POSIX Thread Condition Variables (look under 'Avoiding the Mutex Contention' section and point 7)
It says that, the second version may have some performance benefits. Because it makes possible for thread with pthread_cond_wait to wait less frequently.

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