We're doing an application which takes feeds and items in that feed to entities on our own site. This is supposed to be an open site which anybody can sign up to. All of this is done with MVC + knockoutjs. We are thinking about managing the entities from that site using Sharepoint 2013, essentially replacing our SQL tables of those entities, and putting them into lists on in our Sharepoint instance. We're also thinking of doing the same thing for users and passwords and such. Then we might have a setup for a single sign on for any other sites my company makes. Currently we're using NHibernate and SQL server.
Are we are naive to think that Sharepoint could handle the amount of traffic, with outside users using our site, along with customers. I've heard that it's doable, I'm just wondering if it's a smart thing to do, and if there are hickups, limitations that any of you have run into trying to do this.
We went pretty far down the Sharepoint-as-a-development-platform path and ultimately ended up scrapping what we had done and rewriting it in other technologies. That doesn't necessarily mean it is not the right choice for your situation, but there a few things to consider:
"Why do it this way?". What are the benefits to adding the Sharepoint layer to your technology stack? If not Sharepoint, what do the alternatives look like?
Do you already have a solid Sharepoint admin team in place? Sharepoint definately requires a dedicated admin or team of admins that really understand the product to keep it performant and to help you troubleshoot when things are not working correctly.
Do you have Sharepoint development talent already in house? Good Sharepoint developers are harder to find and are typically more expensive than your regular .NET developer. Also, some existing .NET developers may not be interested in learning Sharepoint.
What is your expected traffic, and can Sharepoint handle it out of the box? At least in previous versions of Sharepoint there were internal limits on the amounts of data that could be stored in each list. On top of that, there were practical limits before the performance of the app becomes totally unacceptable. Understanding what those limits are should be a part of your initial due diligence so you can plan for those eventualities.
Will you be extracting operational data for external reporting or warehousing purposes? Is your data team already familiar with getting data out of Sharepoint?
Ultimately, the reason we failed was we ran down the path after the promise of "easy" development without really committing to the product. When we started running into problems, we struggled with basics like troubleshooting because we had lost a couple key people and our regular devs and admins struggled to figure out what was going on. If we had had the right people in place, our experience might have been different. We didn't, however, and we eventually chose to move away from Sharepoint and rebuild on our standard MVC/SQL platform.
SharePoint has come a long way in a short time to allow external applications to interact with it in the way you describe. I wouldn't try it with anything but SharePoint 2013 mostly because the licensing allows for this without additional cost per user and partly because what I mention next isn't available in 2010 or earlier.
You can use a MVC/knockout frontend but, the MVC app for SharePoint template isn't exactly what you want unless you will provision every user as a SharePoint user account. That template is still an SP app which means it's run by an SP user. I would look at SharePoint as just an OData service that your app writes back to. You can either use the client object model (SCOM) and write back directly (each user exists as a SharePoint user), or you can proxy the data access from your MVC controller and use a 'service' SP user to connect to SharePoint using SCOM. SCOM is just REST and OData so you can use any web-capable language you choose. I know there are examples for C# and JavaScript (node.js). There may be others.
If you are expecting a lot of volume, I would suggest you host this application on SharePoint Online (Office 365), if possible, and configure it to federate with the rest of your environment. That way you only need to add more space as your data grows (rather than more and more servers as load grows).
Here's a nice overview of the APIs available to you:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/office/jj164060.aspx
SharePoint 2013 Developer Center:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/office/jj162979.aspx
5 minute video on SharePoint 2013 SCOM:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview?videoid=1e859ac8-58ca-46d0-a8e0-00f4189761a8&from=sharepermalink-link
Timely blog on anonymous access to SCOM:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/kaevans/archive/2013/10/24/what-every-developer-needs-to-know-about-sharepoint-apps-csom-and-anonymous-publishing-sites.aspx
There is no point to redesign you application only for replacing your database tables with sharepoint lists. Performance is one issue. Sharepoint list limitation is another issue, you will lose flexibility from relational database design and give your life to a black box design called sharepoint list.
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My website is up and running with support from Wix.com, I used the drag and drop builder to set it up and I didn't need to do any Client side/Server side programming for it to work.
What should I do if I want to keep the app updated with the website as soon as I upload any article/post on the website.
Consider taking a different approach and migrate to a platform/architecture that better suits your specific case.
My suggestion would be Microweber - it's a pretty advanced platform for websites with CMS and e-commerce features. It's been around for quite some time (3 years or so) and I'm using it for about 12 live active projects.
It's very neat if you plan to write custom code as it's based on Laravel and everything is easily extendable.
However, I'm using it mainly because of the support. Although it's free and open-source the team is online most of the time and have replied to my every request so far.
This is critical for me as many website solutions come and go and none is
perfect. What makes this one better is the reaction time and adequacy.
This is my personal opinion with regard to the fact that it's very hard to pick one solution among so many given that you didn't state more specific requirements.
It cannot be done without any server side scripting and backend database for the mobile app. you need to develop database for it.and then you will need to develop web service for the passing the data between mobile and backend.
A dirty way to do this would be through an HTTP request that reads HTML. However the best way would be through Wix's REST API.
Edit: I'm regards to keeping the app updated, you're going to need a backend service that is consistently checking for updates.
We have an idea to use ADX with MVC 5 and CRM 2013.
Is it possible?
We are doing background research on this whether to use ADX or not.
We have used ASP.NET with ADX previously.
This will help take a decision and will save our time.
Appreciate help if anyone know about this.
Adx portal - http://www.adxstudio.com/products/adxstudio-portals/
ADX offers a great product with an impressive feature list. http://www.adxstudio.com/products/adxstudio-portals/portals-features/
Like any add-on, look to see if there is something it contains that you deem as being vital and valuable enough to justify. Additionally, does your team have the ability/time to create the end product with or without ADX?
This is an opinion based question and in my opinion, none of the features alone justify the price. Especially seeing that ASP.NET + NuGet pretty much covers most of these features already.
Adxstudio Portals delivers managed forms by rendering a form in an Adxstudio Portal based on a particular form or view customization defined on an entity in CRM. Within CRM, entities can be customized and forms and views can be modified or created depending on your requirements.
https://community.adxstudio.com/products/adxstudio-portals/users-guide/managed-forms/
and
https://community.adxstudio.com/products/adxstudio-portals/developers-guide/web-controls/crmentityformview/
Above is the main reason us to consider ADX Studio.
ADX Studio, offers a good tool set to the client that has an internal developing team that will pick it up after you finish to customize it. Basically you provide some page template and the user is able to mess around with the forms to have a tailored experience (this works well when you don't have any logic on the page, just set the page and you are ready to go). Anything that is not in this category is custom made, means that you need to code it, and you will lose all the additional ADX benefits (for what concerns the read/write to CRM). Consider that a CRM developer is not a full asp/mvc developer, so anything that is more complex than change some code behind in a page template will create you problems, also all the jscript on the adx pages needs to be tailored, and you will need developers that are knowing the current web development standards, from Bootstrap to a decent js framework. Personally I'm not a huge fan, but the built-in authentication and some other features are making it a viable product. Consider that to customize it you will need someone that knows responsive design and js.
I'm looking at building a simple login-based iOS application that needs secure access to create, read, updated and delete data from a MySQL database - with certain actions available to specific users based on roles.
I've done some research and it looks like I need to build a RESTful Web service which provides Web Services which the iPhone app calls to access the data.
I have very little experience of web services development, are there any books/tutorials that are worth checking out? Is it worth looking at a web framework, rather than start from sractch?
I've done some basic web development in PHP/Python so would prefer to build in that I think..given that hosting it would be relatively cheap..
Have done some basic C#/Java; would it be worth looking at these instead? I tried creating a simple ASMX webservice but most of the examples cite using a MSSQL server, not sure if that is the way to go though.
Use a framework. No point reinventing the wheel and giving yourself a headache. A good PHP based solution would be to use Drupal to build the backend using the Services module to provide data via webservices. Drupal is so flexible and so popular now, that you can get a lot of what you want done without any code at all.
Roughly:
Install Drupal 7 on a webserver according to the instructions
Install the Services module
Design the entities that will make up your MySQL database
Tell the services module how you want to expose things
Some examples of API calls are here.
A case study of someone else who has used Drupal as the backend for iPhone/Android is here.
You will have a learning curve to get your head round Drupal, but you'll have one anyway to get your head around webservices and the benefits you gain from having everything else Drupal offers are enormous, e.g.
The difficult bits are already done for you, so the amount of code will be massively reduced, if you even need any at all
Using Drupal's hugely flexible entities system, you can design a flexible and extensible mysql database scheme using the web based UI, which will be ready to work with any of Drupal's other modules, so you can expand add features with minimal effort in the future
There's an enormous community of people who can help you and the forums on drupal.org are very active
You would have a great UI for users, in case you ever need to give them access to their data through a normal website interface. Drupal has loads of pre-built themes (I recommend Omega) which look awesome and again, little to no code is needed to get a whole site ready made along with HTML5, standards compliance etc.
Drupal provides you with ready-made modules to provide access control via roles, as well as everything else you can imagine e.g. managing a mailing list for your users, providing you with usage statistics, admin interface for user and role management etc.
Drupal use is exploding globally and there's a serious skills shortage, so you'd be even more employable :)
First, it's not compulsory that you use a REST web service. It's just that WS si more or less standard for web-based applications.
I'm not really familiar with PHP, but in python you have django-piston. On the IOS side you have restkit to pair the server with.
What I could say from my experience is that writing a prototype in django is quite easy and you can definitely use this to develop your app.
I am in the process of developing several data entry forms that the client has asked to be accessible through the SharePoint interface (2007 WSS version).
The forms will, among other requirements, consist of multiple drop downs that have to be loaded from tables in SQL Server. These lists of data are updated frequently through a process that sucks data in from Great Plains.
My inclination is to create a Web Part Page with a Page Viewer Web Part and go full screen like this: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/malag/archive/2008/09/15/story-of-a-mischievous-page-viewer-web-part.aspx
...and then to do the pages in ASP.NET MVC3. Is there a better story than this? The integrated SP development paradigm seems like waaaay more overhead.
This sounds like a common issue with developers new the SharePoint paradigm, especially for 2007. The short answer is that your solution will be the quickest way to get to where you want to go but isn't the "cleanest".
The other option is to create a SharePoint Solution and publish an application page to the _layouts directory. A quintessential "hello world" example can be found at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb418732(office.12).aspx.
New SP developers will find the hardest transition with deployment. The WSPBuilder codeplex project http://wspbuilder.codeplex.com/ has become the industries default solution for doing this. An example of using this can be found at http://www.greggalipeau.com/category/sharepoint/wspbuilder/.
For you I would say the key words are Application Pages and WSPBuilder.
We would like to give our customers access to report bugs and to look at existing bugs and work items, through Team Foundation Server.
For that, we will need a web frontend, which is customer-friendly. It should be easy to use and with a nice UI. I am aware of Web Access, but think it is too developer-oriented for our customers to use.
Is there any good open source or commercial products out there for doing this? It is important that we will be able to customize the products for our needs.
There is WIWA, but it's quite similar to the regular web access tool. It exists more as a licensing aid (helping TFS admins ensure they don't overstep the CAL requirements) than as a fresh new UI aimed at non-developers.
Note: get it from the latest download package for TSWA SP1, not the CTP linked in the blog post
I don't know of any other solutions that are as customizable as you're hoping. I've seen (and contributed to) one-off solutions that were tailored for a specific work item type. At the broadest level, you could say that the bug pages # connect.microsoft.com and # Codeplex fall into that category as well. But none of them is publicly available, nor would they be helpful even if published.
You'll probably need to do a one-off of your own using the Work Item Tracking API. Luckily, this is far easier than writing a generalized workflow engine / forms designer that knows how to parse WIT XML.
A bit of a shameless plug as I'm the project owner: Spruce is an ASP.NET MVC2/jQuery driven front end for TFS 2010 aimed at replicating the user-friendly approach you find in products such as Fogbugz, Unfuddle and online sites such as Github, Bitbucket.
A few screenshots:
I'll be adding the list of features found on the blog at the start of the year.