It appears that when I use Firebase.ServerValue.TIMESTAMP currently, it is using PDT (I assume that will be changing to PST in the fall).
Is there a way to get this in UTC instead of PDT?
Firebase timestamps are always stored as milliseconds since the epoch (midnight of 1/1/1970 in UTC). This is the same way that dates work in Javascript and many other languages. This is a timezone-agnostic way of representing time.
Generally speaking, timezone only plays a role in how a time is displayed to a user, not in how it's represented under-the-hood. Firebase timestamps are no different.
So, if you construct a JS date object using a timestamp created by Firebase.ServerValue.TIMESTAMP, it will automatically have the same timezone as the machine on which it is being displayed.
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I have table which have a datetime field named date. When doing a POST in order to insert a new row, the date sent from the client (browser) looks like 2015-11-20T14:30:00+10:00 which is actually a correct date and timezone.
However, inside Postgres this date has been inserted as 2015-11-20 04:30:00.000000, which as you can see, is not at all the same as above. I know the problem is related to the timezone. But I cannot seems to figure out a fix.
For information, I have configured my app timezone :
class Application < Rails::Application
config.time_zone = 'Brisbane'
end
Ideas?
2015-11-20T14:30:00+10:00 means that the local time of 14:30 is 10 hours ahead of UTC. Your database field reflects the correct UTC value of 04:30. This is often the desired behavior, especially if the value represent a timestamp - the date and time something occured (past tense).
In PostgreSQL, there are two different types of timestamp fields (reference)
The TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE field accepts an input that contains a time zone offset. It then converts the value to UTC for storage. On retrieval, it uses the session's timezone setting.
The TIMESTAMP, or TIMESTAMP WITHOUT TIME ZONE simply stores the date and time given, ignoring any offset, and not converting to UTC.
Most of the time, you should indeed use TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE. You should only use TIMESTAMP WITHOUT TIME ZONE if you need to retain the local date and time value, such as in scheduling of future events and calculation of business hours. And for those scenarios, it often makes more sense to split date and time into separate DATE and TIME fields.
One last thing - if you can avoid it, avoid using Rails time zones and use standard tzdb zones. "Australia/Brisbane" is the full tzdb identifier equivalent to the Rails "Brisbane" time zone. Refer to the section on Rails time zones at the bottom of the timezone tag wiki.
I found this gem to be incredibly useful and easy for correctly setting the time https://github.com/kbaum/browser-timezone-rails
I have an application providing agenda functionalities.
Disclaimer: I really love Rails and AR's functionalities, this is just meant to ask how can I exploit it functionalities better the next time.
Since it has to be used by a european team it has been developed using +0200 timing informations. I know that the timezone stuff is handled by AR and the base data is always stored in UTC.
The issue I get (but I already solved, just wanted to get some feedback to think it better the next time) is that when I store a new appointment I also enforce "+0200" at the end of the DateTime.parse call (es. DateTime.parse("#{day} #{hour} +0200") and then I set it as record attribute. Of course 10:00 gets stored as 08:00 inside the data layer, and that's fine.
Then when I retrieve that data using the configured AR timezone (Rome for instance) using something like #appointment.start_at it correctly gets converted back when we are under the CEST daylight time. Issues start happening when start_at are set to be CET (+0100) dates (but I always store it inside the database enforcing CEST +0200).
Inside the database start_at is always the same, so the UTC representation is always 08:00 when saving an appointment with 10:00 but the AR conversion uses the wrong daylight conversion (CET).
I know I could skip this by simply working all on UTC so I don't have to carry out any consideration about daylight savings times, but it seems a bit messy that AR itself is not able to remember somehow that I stored it while CEST is running.
When performing queries I do the same as when storing, so I append "+0200" to all DateTimes, and all works back again, but when displaying I need to check whether the TimeZone is "CET" or "CEST" and add a +1.hour to CET (otherwise it results the appointment has been signed 1 hour before than the intended hour).
Is it right I should handle this by myself?
Shouldn't be AR able to perform this kind of check since it wraps the data-layer?
How should I design an application the next time to avoid this kind of issue while still using local timezones? (as I said using UTC may also not be applicable by some requirements)
I thought I should change "+0200" with "in_time_zone" the next time, but I also allow users to write by hand an hour to search, and of course this will always be the same time either it is "CET" or "CEST" and of course I cannot enforce users to write following the UTC format.
Thank you,
Right, this is a bit confusing for me, so I'm going to try and explain from the top!
I have a rails web app. It's an internal company app and will only be used in the UK.
One of the things the app does is manage meetings.
Meetings have a date & time when they start. There's a date/time picker on the form which allows the user to pick the date & time the meeting is for. I save this date AS IS into the database. All meetings last 2 hours, so the end time is simply start + 2 hours.
Example:
2013-06-23 6:45PM in the form is stored in the db as 2013-06-23 18:45:00
2013-12-23 6.45pm in the form is stored in the db as 2013-12-23 18:45:00
Note that the first date is during Daylight Savings (BST) and the second is during GMT. I don't actually care whether it is GMT or BST: the meeting happens at that time, absolutely.
Inside the rails webapp, I simply print out the exact date & time from the DB - formatted nicely, of course!
Now, at some point I send an email to the organiser of the meeting, and the person they're meeting with. This email tells them the the date & time of the meeting etc, and also includes an iCal (.ics) file for them to put into their (Outlook usually, but also Apple or gmail) calendar.
The issue I am having is that (using the above examples) Outlook shows the meetings like this:
Meeting #1: Start: 23/06/2013 7:45pm, End: 23/06/2013 9:45pm
Meeting #2: Start: 23/12/2013 6:45pm, End: 23/12/2013 8:45pm
Note that it has adjusted the first one because of the BST/GMT thing.
The text of the .ics file contains this code:
Meeting #1:
BEGIN:VCALENDAR
...
DTEND:20130623T204500Z
DTSTART:20130623T184500Z
...
END:VCALENDAR
Meeting #2:
BEGIN:VCALENDAR
...
DTEND:20131223T204500Z
DTSTART:20131223T184500Z
...
END:VCALENDAR
So I am encoding the dates/times using the Z timezone (UTC). I understand this is why Outlook mis converting the UTC time into the BST time for #1 and leaving #2 alone (because GMT == UTC)
My question is: how do I stop this happening? I want the time the meeting is scheduled for to be the absolute, actual time, regardless of GMT/BST: 6:45pm
Should I be storing the date-times as UTC in the DB? How would this be done (I assume it would apply to all dates, not just meeting start dates). And how to re-convert them back into the actual datetime when I display them in the webapp?
Extra:
I have an entry in my initializers/time_formats.rb like this:
:ical => "%Y%m%dT%H%M00Z"
So dates come out like "20130623T184500Z". I use this when building the ics. And this I think is the issue - if the date/time is during BST I don't want to be using Z, but something else?
Your problem is your date/time format. You have:
DTSTART:20130623T184500Z
in your .ics file and this corresponds to 19:45 BST (as British summer time is UTC+1).
There are a few things you should do. First, you can simply remove the 'Z' from the end of your dates. This means that the times inherit the timezone of the calendar, or the underlying application.
This will work assuming that the machines which are running Outlook are all in the Europe/London timezone. If not, or if you want to be a bit safer, you should also specify the following after your BEGIN: VCALENDAR line:
X-WR-TIMEZONE:Europe/London
This specifies the default timezone for all dates which are not specified explicitly.
Finally, if this does not work for any reason then you need to define your datetimes explicitly. First you need to add a timezone definition for Europe/London to the calendar. The info you need is available at http://www.tzurl.org/zoneinfo-outlook/Europe/London.ics. Then you need to ensure that all datetimes are of the format:
DTSTART;TZID=Europe/London:20130623T184500
This last approach is the best, as it means that if your requirements expand to other timezones you will be able to handle them relatively easily.
Sorry to answer this myself, but in case anyone else runs into this here's what I found was the cause of my particular issue. Note that the answer above re timezones also makes sense!
My rails app is storing UTC datetimes in the DB (as is default)
But, it also thought it's own timezone was UTC, which also seems to be the default.
The upshot of that is essentially it was storing local dates, local to UTC anyway. Changing the app to know it was sitting in Europe/London made it so the dates in the DB are all now accurately UTC (meaning, they're an hour off if I'm currently in BST)
I can now use the Z datetime format in iCals, and outlook and the rails app both convert the UTC date back into the actual datetime for the viewing-user's locale (Europe/London for everyone at the moment). This is what I wanted.
I having an column of UNIX time stamp in my database table, which comes from a system that is in the Kuwait time zone.
My database server's time zone is Eastern Time US & Canada. Now I need to convert the UNIX time stamp in to Kuwait time zone date value using an SQL query.
Can anyone tell me how I can convert this UNIX time stamp into a Kuwait time zone date value?
Unix timestamps are integer number of seconds since Jan 1st 1970 UTC.
Assuming you mean you have an integer column in your database with this number, then the time zone of your database server is irrelevant.
First convert the timestamp to a datetime type:
SELECT DATEADD(second, yourTimeStamp, '1970-01-01')
This will be the UTC datetime that corresponds to your timestamp.
Then you need to know how to adjust this value to your target time zone. In much of the world, a single zone can have multiple offsets, due to Daylight Saving Time.
Unfortunately, SQL Server has no ability to work work time zones directly. So if you were, for example, using US Pacific time, you would have no way of knowing if you should subtract 7 hours or 8 hours. Other databases (Oracle, Postgres, MySql, etc.) have built-in ways to handle this, but alas, SQL Server does not. So if you are looking for a general purpose solution, you will need to do one of the following:
Import time zone data into a table, and maintain that table as time zone rules change. Use that table with a bunch of custom logic to resolve the offset for a particular date.
Use xp_regread to get at the Windows registry keys that contain time zone data, and again use a bunch of custom logic to resolve the offset for a particular date. Of course, xp_regread is a bad thing to do, requires certain permissions granted, and is not supported or document.
Write a SQLCLR function that uses the TimeZoneInfo class in .Net. Unfortunately, this requires an "unsafe" SQLCLR assembly, and might cause bad things to happen.
IMHO, none of these approaches are very good, and there is no good solution to doing this directly in SQL. The best solution would be to return the UTC value (either the original integer, or the datetime at UTC) to your calling application code, and do the timezone conversion there instead (with, for example, TimeZoneInfo in .Net or similar mechanisms in other platforms).
HOWEVER - you have lucked out in that Kuwait is (and always has been) in a zone that does not change for Daylight Saving Time. It has always been UTC+03:00. So you can simply add three hours and return the result:
SELECT DATEADD(hour, 3, DATEADD(second, yourTimeStamp, '1970-01-01'))
But do recognize that this is not a general purpose solution that will work in any time zone.
If you wanted, you could return one of the other SQL data types, such as datetimeoffset, but this will only help you reflect that the value is three hours offset to whomever might look at it. It won't make the conversion process any different or better.
Updated Answer
I've created a project for supporting time zones in SQL Server. You can install it from here. Then you can simply convert like so:
SELECT Tzdb.UtcToLocal('2015-07-01 00:00:00', 'Asia/Kuwait')
You can use any time zone from the IANA tz database, including those that use daylight saving time.
You can still use the method I showed above to convert from a unix timestamp. Putting them both together:
SELECT Tzdb.UtcToLocal(DATEADD(second, yourTimeStamp, '1970-01-01'), 'Asia/Kuwait')
Updated Again
With SQL Server 2016, there is now built-in support for time zones with the AT TIME ZONE statement. This is also available in Azure SQL Database (v12).
SELECT DATEADD(second, yourTimeStamp, '1970-01-01') AT TIME ZONE 'Arab Standard Time'
More examples in this announcement.
If one only works with dates and no time, would it still be wise to save all your dates in UTC for a multi timezone app?
I suggest using DateTimeOffset - this allows you to store both the DateTime and the UTC offset.
Also, read this SO question about timezone best practices.
The general the answer is yes, but it will introduce errors in time conversion if time part is not stored. Timezone conversions need time part to produce meaningful results. So just store full UTC time (i.e. date and time), since you can always trim it to just date if necessary.