Alternative to TXMLDocument? - delphi

Recently we upgraded our code from Delphi 2009 to Delphi XE and updated our Indy components (not sure if this is relevant).
But ever since then we have had errors on Windows Server 2003 machines when loading and saving XML files.
XMLDoc.LoadFromFile()
XMLDoc.SaveToFile()
The DLL msvcrt.dll is much smaller on Windows Server 2003 (300kb or so) compared to over 600kb on other operating systems... So its missing something in that file and its causing the error...
Does anyone know how to fix this? Or is there an alternative to TXMLDocument that I can try?

By default, TXMLDocument/IXMLDocument is just a wrapper around the MSXML COM interfaces when running on Windows platforms. Neither TXMLDocument nor Indy use the _ftol2_sse() function, or even link to msvcrt.dll. Something else in your project is at fault.

msvcrt.dll is (part of) the Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime. I think you got an older (or maybe even newer) version of this runtime that doesn't include this function.
Now you'll have to find out where this function is called. Do you link obj files with your project or use (other) 3rd party dll's?

To answer the last part ("is there an alternative?"), you might want to check out Jedi Code Library's TJclSimpleXML class. It does not require any external DLL, is quite fast, and is very easy to use. Besides, these days JCL and JVCL are a must-have anyway if you code in Delphi.
http://wiki.delphi-jedi.org/wiki/JEDI_Code_Library is their page I believe. I hear in seattle you can get it through IDEs integrated package manager.

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procedure _ftol2_sse being called after update to Delphi XE?

In our program we are using a web service to pull back data from a third party into our program.
Ever since we updated to Delphi XE from Delphi 2009, Windows server 2003 users are receiving the following error message when making a SOAP call to the web service.
msvcrt.dll on Server 2003 does not have the procedure _ftol2_sse which is now being called for some reason..
I know this procedure was not being called when we had our source code on Delphi 2009 because I don't get this error on Windows server 2003 when running those builds.
Is this feasible? Could a change in the IDE affect which dll procedures are being called? Does anyone have any insight or ideas on how I might track down or fix this error?
Thanks
This is the third similar question you have asked on this topic. I'll attempt to give you some background information and help you work out what is going on.
First of all it's important to know that msvcrt.dll is a system component. It is not the MSVC runtime. It is supplied as part of Windows. Back in the bad old days, in the mid-90s, a lot of devlopers assumed that the MSVC6 runtime was always available. And they neglected to install that runtime as part of their program's installation. This occasionally caused trouble when the install program happened to find a machine without MSVC6.
The MSVC team moved to differently named runtime DLLs, msvcrt70.dll, msvcrt80.dll and so on. And they educated the developers that installing the MSVC runtime should be part of all MSVC application's installation programs.
But the Windows team wanted to help out legacy apps that had installers that assumed MSVC6 runtime was available. So they took the MSVC6 runtime under their control and started shipping it with Windows. I think this started around the time of Windows 2000 or XP.
The point I am trying to make is that msvcrt.dll is a system DLL over which you have no control. In your previous questions you have described your attempts to modify that DLL. Don't do that.
Now, from what I can glean, the version of msvcrt.dll that shipped with 2003 server does not export a function named _ftol2_sse. Hardly surprising since SSE floating point was not widely available back in the days of 2003 server. Clearly something in your system is resulting in an attempt to import _ftol2_sse.
You should be able to work out what is provoking this by using Dependency Walker. Use the functions on the Profile menu to start your application and study closely the logs. You should be able to see the chain of events that lead to an attempt to link to _ftol2_sse.
I'd be surprised if any of the Windows code linked to msvcrt.dll. That library is provided purely as a prop for legacy apps that link against MSVC6. But you never know.
Also try loading your executable in Dependency Walker. Look at the list of imported DLLs. Check to see if msvcrt.dll is in the list. If so, see what functions your executable imports, and if _ftol2_sse is in that list. If so then you'll be able to find it somewhere in the Delphi source code.
From the various similar sounding reports on the web I suspect that the problem you face is benign. Many of the people reporting the same issue can OK the dialogs and have their program continue without problem. This suggests that you can simply suppress the error reporting and so solve your problem. Use the SetErrorMode function to do so. You want to include the SEM_FAILCRITICALERRORS flag.
Be aware that SetErrorMode has a rather perverse interface. Almost all code that I have ever seen uses it incorrectly. Including the code in the Delphi RTL, and so many of the commonly used Delphi third party libraries. Raymond Chen, as usual, explains how to use it correctly.
Could switching compilers provoke the behaviour change? Certainly they could. Either the library code that you are using is implemented differently. Or perhaps the error mode is somehow different at the crucial moment.

Windows & Mac XML library for delphi XE2

What is the best (easy to use, performances) library to manage XML on Delphi XE2. Windows and Mac targets in mind.
I usually go for the NativeXML library, it's an XML library completely written in Delphi code and it's free. I'm not sure if the latest version offers compatibility with the Firemonkey platform, but with a few changes to unit names I tested it successfully back when Delphi XE2 was first released.
You can find the component here: http://www.simdesign.nl/xml.html
In case the latest version isn't compatible with XE2 yet, there's a topic on the forums about how to make it compatible: http://www.simdesign.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2110
You can use OmniXML, it is:
100% written in delphi
Has no outer dependencies
Works on XE2, did not test it on OSX
On top of OmniXML you can use SimpleStorage to give you more power and simplicity managing the XML.
Andreano Lanusse has a nice blog post on using XML on Mac. It turns out that:
When you drop a TXMLDocument component on your design the default DOMVendor MSXML, you have to change to ADOM XML v4 to support cross-platform.

Is it possible to recompile the DataSnap packages in Delphi XE with a new/different version of Indy?

Okay -- we have an interesting problem.
Some background:
Our main application uses Indy 10. However, we take the Indy 10
source and fix bugs in it, recompile, and install our own set of Indy
components.
We are migrating to Delphi XE and want to start using DataSnap.
DataSnap requires the "official, shipping" version of Indy which is
incompatible with our customized version of Indy.
Our DataSnap servers will be separate applications, but since we
have our own Indy installed in the IDE, we can't "cross the streams".
Okay, therefore, we are unable to use Delphi XE's DataSnap out of the
box because of this compatibility issue.
So my questions is this:
Is it possible to recompile the DataSnap packages in Delphi XE with a new/different version of Indy?
Your thoughts gratefully accepted.
The common belief is No, that's not possible due to not all sources being provided by Embarcadero and some of these sources are reliant on the build of Indy as shipped. (Which is extremely frustrating to end users as the version of Indy that ships with Delphi is out of date relatively quickly and sometimes the version selected at the time is not necessarily a very good one.)
See related SO question:
Is it possible to use Indy 10.5.8.0 in Delphi XE and DataSnap?
Also see the Indy project page:
http://www.indyproject.org/Sockets/Docs/indy10Installation.de.aspx
which states:
Note: In D/CB/RAD 2009+, DataSnap uses
Indy 10 internally. Installing a new
version of Indy will render DataSnap
unusable, as it will not be able to
load the Indy packages anymore.
DataSnap is compiled against the Indy
packages that ship with the IDE, and
DataSnap cannot be recompiled by end
users. If you need to use DataSnap,
then you will need to maintain the
original Indy 10 packages for use in
DataSnap projects.
It's been said that the next version should hopefully allow for easier updates of Indy.
If all DataSnap source is included, is of course possible using some kind of PE executable analisys program to detect which classes and units are used in BPL (as BPLs are just customized DLLs). An very easy one to use is provided with GExperts.
In BPLs, the exports list lines from GExperts\PE Information have an format like #xp$#[nn][UnitName]#[TypeName] (for types) and #[UnitName]{#[Type>]}#[Unit global element like procedures or variables] (for the rest).
You can save that list to a file and GREP to get an list of Units used on a BPL.
Real Examples (vcl140.bpl):
#$xp$11Forms#TForm
#Appevnts#TCustomApplicationEvents#Activate
#Clipbrd#Clipboard

QT bindings for Delphi 2010

Why isn't anyone developing QT bindings for Delphi.
In the past we had QT 2.x integrated as CLX in Delphi.
I really hate the CLX wrappers since they were buggy and hard to extend.
But why isn't anyone making an API list of external DLL calls to use (the same way JCL wraps the Windows API).
Is it so hard to code such API function mapping? Or maybe the QT classes cannot be exposed to non-C callers?
Any hint in this direction is welcome.
qtintf.dll seems to be the flat API DLL you're looking for and Qt.pas the corresponding import unit.
I recommend you wait for VCL+, that is the Qt binding coming with the next version of Delphi.
The problem is that Qt is heavily macro-based and C++ based. So the Qt "flat API" is quite verbose and big. I wonder how EMB will create its own VCL+ binding, but I'll definitively wait for their implementation for using Qt on any Delphi project.
If you can't wait, and really want cross-platform User Interface (with Mac O$ support), I recommend using http://www.twinforms.com/products/wxformsdelphi and not Qt. It relies on a separate DLL, but it's easier to develop, and well maintained/documented.
I managed to port the qt4.pas from
http://users.telenet.be/Jan.Van.hijfte/qtforfpc/fpcqt4.html.
It is originally written for Lazarus but I managed to port it to Delphi.
One must do the following
declare
type
PUInt = ^Integer;
PTRUINT = PUInt;
PtrInt = ^Integer;
PPtrInt = ^PtrInt;
comment out all calls with "qword" paramters since quad-words are not supported in Delphi
comment out "{$mode objfpc}{$H+}" since this is Lazarus stuff
replace all "cdecl; external" with "cdecl; overload; external"
Than the demos can be compiled and run just fine with Delphi.
From what I've heard, apparently the cross-platform component library for Delphi XE2 (version due out next year) will be QT based, sorta like CLX only it should actually work right.

Delphi and COM: TLB and maintenance issues

In the company that i work, we develop all the GUI in C#, but the application kernel is mainly developed in Delphi 5 (for historical reasons), with a lot of components made in COM+. Related to this very specific sort of application a I two questions:
Experienced guys in Delphi and/or COM, do you have any workrounds to work with the buggy TLB interface ?
Some of the bugs are: IDE crashing during edition of a large TLB, lost of methods IDs, TLB corruption, etc.
Here, we haven't found any good solution. Actually we tried do upgrade do the new 2007 version. But the new IDE TLB interface has the same bugs that we found before.
How do you control TLBs versions ? The TLB file is in a binary format and conflict resolutions are very hard to do. We tried to do it exporting the interfaces descriptions to IDL and commiting into CVS, but we didn't found any good way to generate TLBs from IDL using Delphi. Additionaly, the MIDL tool provided by Microsoft, didn't parse correctly the IDL files that we exported from delphi.
I think you should have a good look at Delphi 2009.
Delphi 2009 has changes to the COM support, including a text-based replacement for the binary TLB files.
You can read more on Chris Bensen's blog.
In the distant past (before I started working for CodeGear) I gave up on the odd Delphi-ized IDL language that the IDE presented, and wrote my own IDL and compiled it using MS midl. This largely worked; the only catch, IIRC, was making sure dispids (id attribute) were correct on automation interfaces (dispinterfaces) for property getters & setters - there was some invariant that tlibimp expected but midl didn't guarantee.
However, now that Delphi 2009 uses a safe subset of midl syntax, and includes a compiler for this midl in the box and integrated into the IDE, these problems should be a thing of the past.
We have also just installed Delphi 2009 and it does seem to have improved the support for Typelibraries. However I have worked with COM and type libraries for quite some time and here are my general gotchas that I have found over the years. I would agree its pretty buggy and is all the way up to Delphi 2006 (our version prior to using 2009).
Always have every file writeable before opening. This may sound obvious, but when working with source control sometimes we forget to do this and try to remove readonly flag after opening a file - Delphi cant deal with this. Ensure tlb is writable before opening.
If editing a standalone typelibrary you MUST have a project open. For some reason if you open a type library on its own it will not save. Create a blank project and then open your typelibrary. For some reason this allows the type library to be saved.
If your type library is used by an application or COM+ ensure that application is shut down or COM+ disabled before opening the type library. Any open apps will prevent the type library from being saved.
However I think your best solution is probably an upgrade. You get Unicode support too.
Using Delphi 2009 has greatly taken much of the pain out of huge TLB files, and conversion of our existing objects was painless, but our com objects don't use any third party libraries.
We will be migrating our gui applications over once the library vendors release supported versions.
Same experience with the TLB interface here: we simply stopped using it.
We work with several separate IDL files (hand-build) for different parts of our framework, making use of the #include construct to include them into the IDL of the actual application, then generate the single tlb using MIDL and tlibimp it. If the application has no IDL of it's own, pre-compiled version of the different framework TLB files are available.
Whenever the framework enters a new version, a script is run to re-generate the GUIDS on all necessary interfaces in the IDL files.
This has served us well for many years, and for us to move over the new Delphi 2009 IDL/TLB toolset will have to be not only integrated into the IDE, but also versatile when it comes to automated builds and whatnot. Can't wait to get my hands dirty with some experiments!

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