This is just a basic hardware question I wasn't sure of.
I am not looking for answers like "You should always shut down properly" or "You should always safely remove hard drives". What I'm looking for are what exactly is the difference between doing the proper steps of shutting down and just pulling the plug. I know that shut down makes sure that all writes are finished, stores whatever it needs to to the journal, etc. etc. But when it comes down to actually powering down, is there any difference? Does hard shutdowns eventually cause permanent damage to the harddrive?
During the shut down process, Windows (or any OS) will close files and access to system registry, while parking the little disk arm for the hard disk, neetly at the side. If you just pull the plug, the arm probably won't have the time to park itself, scratching the disk. On top of that, any files/registry open, may be corrupted because the OS won't have warning or time to write to them and close them properly.
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We're working on an application meant to run on an embedded system, in a moderately harsh environment (a controller for a heating system in a residential building).
That application should run for years without needing to reboot the system. It runs on an embedded PC running Linux. The program instantiates several classes whose lifetime is the same as the application's.
Should I worry about memory becoming corrupt over such a long lifetime? Does it make sense to periodically check the class invariants to detect any such memory corruption? Or does modern hardware make such corruption astronomically unlikely?
I have seen my share of cheap sd cards on boards, they can die on you easily.
Few months ago have been dealing with one maker, under high data throughput SD card was unable to react in time. Some irq failure messages pop up and whole partition blows up.
If it's not intended for mass production I would definitely suggest you to choose some good and recommended storage.
But really, I can not remember memory corruption issues(besides rom), I would worry about memory leaks. Those are the most nasty problems for embedded system intended to last long without reboot.
Have to be really careful, they can happen either in userspace or in kernel space. Even software which you have always had confidence in may have them, depending on the build version. Have to choose Linux distribution carefully, if there is no dedicated kernel development team usually this stuff is outsourced to companies which build stable systems, where every included package is tested and confirmed to not leak.
In the end, definitely a few cycles of stress testing are needed, if there are problems with memory you will notice.
I understand that the computer loads the first sector of memory known as BIOS, which runs diagnostics on hardware and the proceeds to load the OS. I guess my question leans towards the hardware side. How does the computer know which memory to boot from (RAM, ROM, FLASH, etc). I understand the differences between memory and I understand computers boot from the hard drive, but Im attempting to make an 8 bit computer with a z80 microprocessor, which will need to boot from ROM or Flash memory. The only problem is that the processor reads only from whatever memory the address pins are connected to and there are no separate address pins for ram and rom. Its also impractical to run the system on rom or flash due to the much slower read/write time compared to ram. The z80 to the best of my knowledge doesnt have separate commands for reading from rom and ram, and it wouldnt matter even if it did because the ram will be blank upon powering up. How does a computer choose to read from rom only upon booting and then switch to ram once the OS has been loaded. Is it hardwired in using logic gates? And how does a computer choose to write to flash memory or a hard drive instead of ram once the OS has been loaded? Would flash memory be treated as a device? Or is this also hardwired into the motherboard using logic gates? Sorry for giving so much background, I just dont want you to waste your time explaining things Ive already grasped. Ive just researched this to a great extent and thought about it for hours on end and cant seem to figure it out, and everywhere Ive looked doesnt explain how the computer chooses which memory to read from, it just says that it does. Thanks
I'm not sure I'm answering what you are asking, but I'll give it a try.
Some computers (at least, IBM PC-compatible computers), after powering up, usually run this BIOS (Basic Input/Output System) program. For this to happen, to the best of my knowledge, the hardware must make the jump to this code, and this code must be accessible (that is, mapped) from the physical memory, since that's where the CPU will execute code from. So, a physical address space with some read-only areas where this code is hard-wired to would do the trick.
Once the BIOS code is running, it can select how to proceed next. It can copy a sector from a hard disk to memory, (or a bunch of data from a Flash drive) and then jump to it, or whatever. That's up to the BIOS writer.
I will try to explain the Pentium boot up process very briefly.
On the flash ROM mounted on the Motherboard. there is a small program called BIOS (basic input, output system). After pressing the power button the BIOS program is executed.
The BIOS contains low level software that performs the following operations :-
checks how much RAM is installed and if all other PCI and ISA buses peripherals are connected.
it checks if all IO devices are connected.
scans a list of boot devices and selects the boot devices based on BIOS configurations setup earlier by the user.
once the boot devices is selected. the first sector from the boot device is read into memory and executed. it contains a simple program which examines the partition table and selects the Active one (Holding the OS). The secondary bootloader is read from that partition. this loader then reads the OS from the partition into the memory and runs it. After running, the OS asks the BIOS for the configuration info for each device and configure the new devices (those have no stored configurations). after all devices configurations are set. they are delivered to the kernel. Then it initializes tables, background boot up processes and starts login program or GUI.
I am writing device software for a PC and for that, I want the PC to be usable as a device. When power is supplied, it should switch on without requiring to press the power button. There are power options in BIOS settings but it starts the PC only when its uncleanly shutdown. The other concern I have is how would unclean shutdown affect the hard disk, filesystem and the OS (XP or Linux).
What you need is another PC and one of these devices attached to it.
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What you do is send this some RS232 commands for a quick closure on one of the relays. The relay is connected to the Power On pins of the computer you want to control.
You possibly could find another relay contact closure for AC current that allows you to close a relay when AC is flowing, but you would only want to for a brief second.
Unsafe shut downs can be quite detrimental depending where the filesystem state is in. It would be quite hard on the hardware too.
There is also the alternative of booting from the network device. A quick search led to some information on wikipedia. Also, there is something related called preboot execution environment which seem to be something like what you are looking for.
Some software options - these aren't exactly what you asked for, but they might help
Mac OS X: In the energy saver control pane's options tab, select "Restart automatically after a power failue. shutdown -hu now should then bring the system down but give you 5 minutes to remove power to simulate a dirty shutdown, and have the computer reboot automatically when power is restored. It's a slightly dirty shutdown anyway, I think. (ie, it doesn't log you off first)
Windows:
I don't have a windows machine so I can't try this, but you used to be able to tell windows not to power down the computer when you select shut down, but rather to put it in a safe state and display "It is now safe to turn off your computer". Perhaps you could then remove the power and have the bios believe it was a non-clean shutdown, and turn the machine on again when power is restored. There are some instructions on how to do this in Windows Server 2003 at the bottom of this microsoft help document. This forum discussion seems to suggest it might work on XP.
Linux: Not sure about this one, but maybe this website can help.
I haven't tried any of these, so no guarantees that they'll work or work safely.
Is WM operating system protects process memory against one another?
Can one badly written application crash some other application just mistakenly writing over the first one memory?
Windows Mobile, at least in all current incarnations, is build on Windows CE 5.0 and therefore uses CE 5.0's memory model (which is the same as it was in CE 3.0). The OS doesn't actually do a lot to protect process memory, but it does enough to generally keep processes from interfering with one another. It's not hard and fast though.
CE processes run in "slots" of which there are 32. The currently running process gets swapped to slot zero, and it's addresses are re-based to zero (so all memory in the running process effectively has 2 addresses, the slot 0 address and it's non-zero slot address). These addresses are proctected (though there's a simple API call to cross the boundary). This means that pointer corruptions, etc will not step on other apps but if you want to, you still can.
Also CE has the concept of shared memory. All processes have access to this area and it is 100% unprotected. If your app is using shared memory (and the memory manager can give you a shared address without you specifically asking, depending on your allocation and its size). If you have shared memory then yes, any process can access that data, including corrupting it, and you will get no error or warning in either process.
Is WM operating system protects process memory against one another?
Yes.
Can one badly written application crash some other application just mistakenly writing over the first one memory?
No (but it might do other things like use up all the 'disk' space).
Even if you're a device driver, to get permission to write to memory that's owned by a different process there's an API which you must invoke explicitly.
While ChrisW's answer is technically correct, my experience of Windows mobile is that it is much easier to crash the entire device from an application than it is on the desktop. I could guess at a few reasons why this is the case;
The operating sytem is often much more heavily OEMed than Windows desktop, that is the amount of manufacturer specific low level code can be very high, which leads to manufacturer specific bugs at a level that can cause bad crashes. On many devices it is common to see a new firmware revision every month or so, where the revisions are fixes to such bugs.
Resources are scarcer, and an application that exhausts all available resources is liable to cause a crash.
The protection mechanisms and architecture vary quite a bit. The device I'm currently working with is SH4 based, while you mostly see ARM, X86 and the odd MIPs CPU..
I'm using the UPS service to monitor the state of my UPS from an application -- the key at HKLM\SYSTEM\CCS\Services\UPS\Status has all the information you can get from the Power control panel. BUT -- I'd like to be able to tell the UPS to shut down from my app as well. I know that the service can tell the UPS to shut down -- for instance, after running a set number of minutes on battery -- and I'm wondering if there's some kind of command I can send to the service to initiate a shutdown manually.
I'm having trouble searching for this information -- people tend to misspell "Uninterruptible" (hrm, Firefox red-lined that but doesn't have an alternative) and "UPS" just gets hits for the shipping service. Maybe I can do something through System.ServiceController, or WMI?
CLARIFICATION: Yes, I am talking about powering down the physical UPS device. I know how to stop the service. I figured it would be a common problem -- I want my UPS to turn off with the PC. I had an idea I'm going to try, based on this page. You see, APC (and everybody else) has to supply a DLL for the UPS service to call, and since the function calls are well documented, there's no reason I shouldn't be able to P/Invoke them. I'll re-edit this once I know whether or not it worked.
Update: I tried invoking UPSInit, then UPSTurnOff, and nothing happens. I'll tinker with it some more, but the direct call to apcups.dll might be a dead end.
Check my comments to Herman, you want to shut the UPS down, not the UPS SERVICE, correct? I mean, you want that thing to shut off, kill the power, etc, right?
If so, you are looking it on a UPS by UPS model. I doubt two of them would work the same.
In your searches, instead of UPS, try "APC", or "battery". I think a lot of the code is what runs on laptops to deal with being on battery, etc...
Some place hidden in some dusty old files I have protocol information for APC UPS's, and the commands they respond to, and what they send to the PC etc. But this was WAY back in the day when we used to connect our UPS's to our computers with SERIAL cables... You could actually talk to a UPS with Qmodem or Hyperterm...
Learned it from talking to the guys at APC. They are very nice, and helpful. Now-a-days, I think you just post a URL coming from your Powerchute software, and it will talk directly to the UPS, and carry out your commands.
OK, I have the answer (tested!), but it's not pretty. My APC UPS communicates using the APC "Smart" protocol (more here). What you need in my case is a "soft shutdown", "S" command. But first you need to make sure it's in "Smart" mode ("Y"). Now, if you want to let the Windows UPS service monitor state, the service will have an iron grip on the COM port. So you can either a) let the Windows service turn the UPS off, or b) kill the service and turn the UPS off yourself.
The UPS itself has a "grace period" after it gets the "S" command, giving you time to shut down your OS. This means that to do (a) above, you have to:
Kill utility (mains) power
Wait for the Windows UPS Service timeout (default and minimum 2 minutes)
Wait for Windows to shut down -- right near the end, it will send the "S" command
Wait for the UPS grace period, after which it will actually turn itself off
I think we're going to opt for (a), just because (b) involves extra work killing the service and implementing the serial comms.
Please, tell in what language are you trying to do that... if you're using .NET you can do that with ServiceController class (read the docs).
For controlling services in Win32 API using C/C++, Service Functions (Windows).
For example to stop a service you can use ControlService function as follows (this is a quick and dirty example):
OpenService (hServMgr, TEXT("\\UPS_SERVICE_0"), SC_MANAGER_ALL_ACCESS);
SERVICE_STATUS stat;
ControlService (hUpsService, SERVICE_CONTROL_STOP, &stat)
Note that you need to provide a Service Manager handle in hServMgr and the \\UPS_SERVICE_0 name is the name that must match with your desired UPS service (either the Windows built-in or another).
Remember that to stop a service you need the proper security rights. This is not a problem with an Adminstration account, but keep in mind what happens when logging with a non-admin account.
Hope that helps.
About shutting down the physical UPS device, I remember back in WIn98 days I was able to poweroff the device talking with the UPS through the COM port, altough I don't remember the brand or how the programming interface was.