EDI X12 "ISA" header format - edi

Hi I have a question about the "ISA" header structure of EDI X12 message:
Does any one know whether the structure of "ISA" differs between different versions (e.g. 4010, 5010...)?
Thanks!

The structure of the ISA doesn't change - it is still a fixed length segment with 15 elements and 106 characters. The version (004010) is defined in the group (GS08). There is an element that defines the "interchange" version, but it does not affect the structure of the ISA segment.

ISA has indeed different structures.
both there is a strong need for upward compatibility, so only small differences.
the version of ISA is the syntax version, I think it is ISA 12
(this can and will be different from be different from the version in GS 08.
The version in GS is about the version of the transacton, not the syntax.)

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Why flang Fortran print adds a new line at a certain width? [duplicate]

I want to write the following output to a txt file using f77:
14 76900.56273 0.000077 -100000 1000000000 -0.769006
I use:
write(6,*) KINC, BM, R2, AF, BK, BM/AF
without any format (which works well in terms of decimal digits). However in my txt file the output is written as:
14 76900.56273 0.000077 -100000
1000000000 -0.769006
Because I think there is a fixed column width limit by default. I don't know if it is possible to change this so that I can just copy and paste it to excel.
I've looked at FORTRAN 77 Language Reference but I haven't found a way to do it. Any ideas? Thanks
use format
or check your compiler's option
if your compiler is one of dec/compaq/intel, read this link.
http://software.intel.com/sites/products/documentation/doclib/stdxe/2013/composerxe/compiler/fortran-win/hh_goto.htm#GUID-C6A40AAC-81D8-4DD8-A792-62792B3AC213.htm#GUID-C6A40AAC-81D8-4DD8-A792-62792B3AC213
list directed output (fmt=*) :: 80 column limit default.
"There is a property of list-directed sequential WRITE statements called the right margin. If you do not specify RECL as an OPEN statement specifier or in environmental variable FORT_FMT_RECL, the right margin value defaults to 80. When RECL is specified, the right margin is set to the value of RECL. If the length of a list-directed sequential WRITE exceeds the value of the right margin value, the remaining characters will wrap to the next line. Therefore, writing 100 characters will produce two lines of output, and writing 180 characters will produce three lines of output."
In intel's manual, blue color indicates extensions to the Fortran Standards. These extensions (non-standard features) may or may not be implemented by other compilers that conform to the language standard.
oracle(sun) F77
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19957-01/805-4939/6j4m0vnbu/index.html#z400074369ac
"Output lines longer than 80 characters are avoided where possible"
With the asterisk as the format, you are using listed-directed IO. This is intended as a convenience. It gives the programmer minimal control, with few restrictions on the compiler and incomplete portability. The compiler is free to determine aspects such as line length. If you want control over line length, switch to using an actual format.
P.S. Why use FORTRAN 77? Fortran 90/95/2003 is easier to use and more powerful. gfortran is an open-source compiler.

Relevance of Segment names in EDI

I have been working with EDI documents for the past few months and dealt with different EDI formats like 810 (Invoice), 850 (PO), 855 (PO Ack) etc.
I just wonder where does this Segment names comes from? What is the exact definition for each segment? Like ISA, GS, GE, IEA etc.
Also beginning of a segment possess different values for each document formats. Like BIG for 810, BEG for 850 etc. Where does these abbreviations comes from?
They come from the implementation guides. This is an example of one of them: http://www.att.com/Common/docs/EDI_820_Guide.pdf
Traditional EDI (segments/elements) documents are defined by a governing standards body, usually ANSI (X12) or EDIFACT (U.N. standard). (TRADACOMS and HL7 are also standards bodies) These entities created and published the document types, enveloping, segment names and definitions, element data types and size, component elements, etc. http://www.x12.org/ is the main site for the X12 standard (predominantly found in the US). EDIFACT can be found here: http://www.unece.org/cefact/edifact/welcome.html. These groups are repsonsible for pushing the standard further as business requirements evolve and new data attributes are created. Version 4010 in the ANSI X12 was the first Y2K compliant X12 standard released. There have been many versions released since then, but many still use version 4010 as their standard.
The decision makers made some segments somewhat "mnemonic", so that you can easily determine what kind of information is in the segment. BEG is a good example of this, as common sense would dictate it is "Beginning" of the transaction. Of course, this doesn't apply consistently in the standard. N1 for Names and Addresses, TD3 and TD5 for routing and lading qty.
The end users would then devise their own guideline as to how they implemented the standard. In some cases you'll find some bastardization of the standard to fit special case needs.
Most translators come with some kind of built-in Dictionary Viewer where you can browse. X12 is mostly closed-source and the commercial translator makers pay X12 to include the library. EDIFACT (which is not your example above) is published free of charge. There is a free tool from Liaison called EDI Notepad that you can download and get a sense of the syntax and validation. That can be found here: https://www.liaison.com/products/integrate/edi-notepad/edi-dictionary-viewer/

How do I know what character set is used in x12 document?

I am implementing an EDI-x12 header parser (only to parse "ISA" segment)
I notice that there are several character sets can be used.
My question is that how do I know that which one is used of incoming edi-x12 message so that I know how to interpret the message?
actually there is no such thing as a character set in x12.
this is up to the partners/interchange agreement.
but as X12 is mainly used in USA, it is us-ascii (almost always).
(but .....some companies send x12 as EBCEDIC ;-)))
If you're only doing ANSI X12, the ISA segment should be easy for you to parse, as it is a fixed length.
Position 4 will give you the element delimiter (field delimiter).
Position 106 will give you the record terminator.
Position 105 will give you the subelement delimiter
You probably won't have much use for the subelement delimiter, depending on the document type.
Once you figure out what your field delimiters are and then the record delimiter, it should be a snap.
(Standard disclaimer: there are many great tools out there in the form of data translators that make this job much simpler than having a programmer reinvent the wheel. Some of these tools are even open source and free. Just sayin'...)
Hope this helps.

Does the structure of "UNB" and "UNH" segments differs over different EDIFACT versions?

does any one know whether the structure of "UNB" and "UNH" differs between different EDIFACT versions?
Thanks!
it does change....but not much.
actually, it is not tied to a directory, but a syntax version.
eg: UNB+UNOA:2+
this value '2' here indicates syntax version 2.
different syntax version can have different UNB/UNH.
And indeed, for syntax version 4 quite some fields have been added.
you lokk the services segments on the CEFACT official site or UN/CEFACT.
The structure segment has different during the Dictionnary version D96A, D01B, ...
The services segment was change in version 400100 about UNB UNH the warring about the structure data also... in UNB the date Interchange change YYMMDD change into YYYYMMDD !

How to understand an EDI file?

I've seen XML before, but I've never seen anything like EDI.
How do I read this file and get the data that I need? I see things like ~, REF, N1, N2, N4 but have no idea what any of this stuff means.
I am looking for Examples and Documentations.
Where can I find them?
Aslo
EDI guide i found says that it is based on " ANSI ASC X12/ ver. 4010".
Should I search form X12 ?
Kindly help.
Several of these other answers are very good. I'll try to fill in some things they haven't mentioned.
EDI is a set of standards, the most common of which are:
ANSI X12 (popular in the states)
EDIFACT (popular in Europe)
Sounds like you're looking at X12 version 4010. That's the most widely used (in my experience, anyway) version. There are lots and lots of different versions.
The file, or properly "interchange," is made up of Segments and Elements (and sometimes subelements). Each segment begins with a two- or three-word identifier (ISA, GS, ST, N1, REF).
The structure for all documents begins and ends with an envelope. The envelope is usually made up of the ISA segment and the GS segments. There can be more than one GS segment per file, but there should only be one ISA segment per file (note the should, not everyone plays by the rules).
The ISA is a special segment. Whereas all the other segments are delimited, and therefore can be of varying lenghts, the ISA segment is of fixed width. This is because it tells you how to read the rest of the file.
Start with the last three characters of the ISA segment. Those will tell you the element delimiter, the sub-element delimiter, and the segment delimiter. Here's an example ISA line.
ISA:00: :00: :01:1515151515 :01:5151515151 :041201:1217:U:00403:000032123:0:P:*~
In this case, the ":" is the element delimiter, "*" is a subelement delimiter, and "~" the segment delimiter. It's much easier if you're just trying to look at a file to put linebreaks after each segment delimiter (~).
The ISA also tells you who the document is from and to, what the version is (00403, which is also known as 4030), and the interchange control number (0000321233). The other stuff is probably not important to you at this stage.
This document is from sender "01:1515151515" and to receiver "01:5151515151". So what's with the "01:"? Well, this introduces an important concept in EDI, the qualifier. Several elements have qualifiers, which tell you what type of data the next element is. In this case, the 01 is supposed to be a Dunn and Bradstreet number. Other qualifiers for the ISA05 and ISA07 elements are 12 for phone number, and ZZ for "user defined". You'll find the concept of qualifiers all over EDI segments. A decent rule of thumb is that if it's two characters, it's a qualifier. In order to know what all the qualifiers mean, you'll need a standards guide (either in hard copy from the EDI standards body, or in some software).
The next line is the GS. This is a functional group (a way to group like documents together within an interchange.) For instance, you can have several purchase orders, and several functional acknowledgements within an ISA. These should be placed in separate functional groups (GS segments). You can figure out what type of documents are in a GS segment by looking at the first GS01 element.
GS:PO:9988776655:1122334455:20041201:1217:128:X:004030
Besides the document type, you can see the from (9988776655) and to (1122334455) again. This time they're using different identifiers, which is legal, because you may be receiving an interchange on behalf of someone else (if you're an intermediary, for instance). You can also see the version number again, this time with the trailing "0" (0004030). Use significant digits logic to strip off the leading zeros. Why is there an extra zero here and not in the ISA? I don't know. Lastly this GS segment also has it's own identifier, 128.
That's it for the beginning of the envelope. After that there will be a loop of documents beginning with ST. In this case they'd all be POs, which have a code (850), so the line would start with ST:850:blablabla
The envelope stuff ends with a GE segment which references the GS identifier (128) so you know which segment is being closed. Then comes an IEA which similarly closes out the ISA.
GE:1:128~
IEA:1:000032123~
That's an overview of the structure and how to read it. To understand it you'll need a reference book or software so you understand the codes, lots and lots of time, and lots and lots of practice. Good luck, and post again if you have more specific questions.
Wow, flashbacks. It's been over sixteen years ...
In principle, each line is a "segment", and the identifiers are the beginning of the line is a segment identifier. Each segment contains "elements" which are essentially positional fields. They are delimited by "element delimiters".
Different segments mean different things, and can indicate looping constructs, repeats, etc.
You need to get a current version of the standard for the basic parsing, and then you need the data dictionary to describe the content of the document you are dealing with, and then you might need an industry profile, implementation guide, or similar to deal with the conventions for the particular document type in your environment.
Examples? Not current, but I'm sure you could find a whole bunch using your search engine of choice. Once you get the basic segment/element parsing done, you're dealing with your application level data, and I don't know how much a general example will help you there.
EDI is a file format for structured text files, used by lots of larger organisations and companies for standard database exchange. It tends to be much shorter than XML which used to be great when data packets had to be small. Many organisations still use it, since many mainframe systems use EDI instead of XML.
With EDI messages, you're dealing with text messages that match a specific format. This would be similar to an XML schema, but EDI doesn't really have a standardized schema language. EDI messages themselves aren't really human-readable while most specifications aren't really machine-readable. This is basically the advantage of XML, where both the XML and it's schema can be read by humans and machines.
Chances are that when you're doing electronic banking through some client-side software (not browser-based) then you might already have several EDI files on your system. Banks still prefer EDI over XML to send over transaction data, although many also use their own custom text-based formats.
To understand EDI, you'll have to understand the data first, plus the EDI standard that you want to follow.
Assuming the data stream starts with β€œISA”, towards the beginning there should be a section β€œ~ST*” followed by three numeric digits. If you can post these three digits, I can probably provide you with more information. Also, knowing the industry would be helpful. For example, healthcare uses 270, 271, 276, 277 and a few others.

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