Basically, I'm trying to cover a slot machine reel (white cylinder model) with multiple evenly spaced textures around the exterior. The program will be Windows only and the textures will be dynamically loaded at run-time instead of using the content pipeline. (Windows based multi-screen setup with XNA from the Microsoft example)
Most of the examples I can find online are for XNA3 and are still seemingly gibberish to me at this point.
So I'm looking for any help someone can provide on the subject of in-game texturing of objects like cylinders with multiple textures.
Maybe there is a good book out there that can properly describe how texturing works in XNA (4.0 specifically)?
Thanks
You have a few options. It depends two things: whether the model is loaded or generated at runtime, and whether your multiple textures get combined into one or kept individual.
If you have art skills or know an artist, probably the easiest approach is to get them to texture map the cylinder with as many textures as you want (multiple materials). You'd want your Model to have one mesh (ModelMesh) and one material (ModelMeshPart) per texture required. This is assuming the cylinders always have a fixed number of textures!. Then, to swap the textures at runtime you'd iterate through the ModelMesh.Effects collection, cast each to a BasicEffect and set it's Texture property.
If you can't modify the model, you'll have to generate it. There's an example of this on the AppHub site: http://create.msdn.com/en-US/education/catalog/sample/primitives_3d. It probably does not generate texture coordinates so you'd need to add them. If you wanted 5 images per cylinder, you should make sure the number of segments is a multiple of 5 and the V coordinate should go from 0 to 1, 5 times as it wraps around the cylinder. To keep your textures individual with this technique, you'd need to draw the cylinder in 5 chunks, each time setting the GraphicsDevice.Textures[0] to your current texture.
With both techniques it would be possible to draw the cylinder in a single draw call, but you'd need to merge your textures into a single one using Texture2D.GetData and Texture2D.SetData. This is going to be more efficient, but really isn't worth the trouble. Well not unless you making some kind of crazy slot machine particle system anyway.
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I've seen many terrains in wire mode and all of them used triangles. I get it if you use it for different heights BUT why do people use so many triangles for flat areas in their terrain? If there is a large flat area wouldn't it be wise to create one big square or at least one big triangle (as big as possible) instead of using so many small ones?
So my question is, is there a reason to do this (maybe for textures)? I know tesselation does something like this but still leaves too many triangles from my point of view.
Possible reasons:
They don't have terrain optimization routines.
They use vertex lighting. Unless terrain is densely triangulated, it'll look horrible.
Shader does not work well with huge triangles. Interpolating huge values (like light dir etc) across a triangle might cause precision problems.
Physics engine does not work with huge triangles.
Huge triangles cause artifacts (I think there's a hardware-dependent limit on number of texture repeats).
Multiple materials (more than 8) across terrain. That'll go above multitexturing limits on certain cards, so it'll be necessary to split terrain.
Multiple different materials or regions across terrain, streamed zones. Different materials might require different texture coordinates, etc, and if there's some kind of 2nd set of coordinates on top of the terrain (optimized unwrapped lightmap), you won't be able to use one big flat triangle.
Per-pixel lighting with multiple sources. If you have several light sources, and want to use them all at once, you might have to use additive alpha-blending. With triangulated terrain you can pick out a small region that is affected by this particular resource, and redraw it with added specular from that lightsource. If you simply cut big triangle with clip-planes, you'll see z-fighting. If you don't select small region of terrain light affects, you'll have to redraw entire terrain, which is very likely to cause performance drop (fillrate/shader performance because many pixels are redrawn).
Hi I'm using Firemonkey because of it's cross platform capabilities. I want to render a particle system. Now I'm using a TMesh which works well enough to display the particles fast. Each particle is represented in the mesh via a two textured triangles. Using different texture coordinates I can show many different particle types with the same mesh. The problem is, that every particle can have its own transparency/opacity. With my current approach I cannot set the tranparency individually for each triangle (or even vertex). What can I do?
I realized that there are some other properties in TMesh.Data.VertexBuffer, like Diffuse or other sets of textures (TexCoord1-3), but these properties are not used (not even initalized) in TMesh. It also seems not easy to simply change this behavior by inheriting from TMesh. It seems one have to inherit from a lower level control to initialize the VertextBuffer with more properties. Before I try that, I'd like to ask if it would be possible to control the transparency of a triangle with that. E.g. can I set a transparent color (Diffuse) or use a transparent texture (TextCoor1)? Or is there a better way to draw the particles in Firemonkey.
I admit that I don't know much about that particular framework, but you shouldn't be able to change transparency via vertex points in a 3D model. The points are usually x,y,z coordinates. Now, the vertex points would have an effect on how the sprites are lighted if you are using a lighting system. You can also use the vertex information to apply different transparency effects
Now, there's probably a dozen different ways to do this. Usually you have a texture with different degrees of alpha values that can be set at runtime. Graphics APIs usually have some filtering function that can quickly apply values to sprites/textures, and a good one will use your graphics chip if available.
If you can use an effect, it's usually better since the nuclear way is to make a bunch of different copies of a sprite and then apply effects to them individually. If you are using Gouraud Shading, then it gets easier since Gouraud uses code to fill in texture information.
Now, are you using light particles? Some graphics APIs actually have code that makes light particles.
Edit: I just remembered Vertex Shaders, which could.
In 3d terrain that consists of thousands of cubes (i.e. Minecraft ), what is a way to handle each block in terms of location and rendering? More specifically, I know that drawing a primitive of a cube and world transforming it everywhere in directX 9 is probably a ridiculous way to accomplish this since there are so many performance issues, so I was wondering what a more reasonable method would be.
Should each cube be a mesh that's copied many times, or is their a way to create the appropriate meshes from the data in your vertex buffer?
I found this article that walks through some of the theory behind implementing what I want to implement, but I've never used octrees before so I wasn't able to take too much from the source code. If octrees are indeed the way to go, where is a good starting point to learn about them? Most of my google searches only turned up blog posts about theory with little or no implementation examples.
It seems like using voxels would be useful in doing this, but like with octrees, I'm coming from no experience here, so I don't really know what to study first.
Anyway, thanks for any advice\resources\book names you can spare. I'm sure it's obvious, but I'm still very new to 3d programming, so I appreciate your help.
First off if you're using Minecraft as your reference, think of their use of chunks and relate it to Oct-trees. Minecraft divides up their world into smaller chunks to handle the massive amount information that is needed to be stored so use Oct-trees to organize this data that will be stored. Goz has a very accurate description of how Oct-trees and Quad-trees work, so use his information as a reference.
Another thing to consider is that you don't actually want to draw every cube to the screen as this will eat up your framerate. Use Object Culling to only draw visible cubes to the screen. Again if you think Minecraft; have you ever encountered a glitch where you can see through the blocks and under the world? This is because Minecraft only draws the top layer of blocks. With this many objects on screen, it would be a worthwhile investment to look into Object Culling using both the camera frustum and occlusion query.
For information on using DirectX I would recommend any book by Frank Luna. I own this book myself and it never leaves my side when programming in DirectX. http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Game-Programming-Direct-9-0c/dp/1598220160/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1332478780&sr=8-3
I highly recommend this book as I've learned almost everything I know about DirectX from it.
Upon a Google search I found this link that discusses Occlusion Culling, because Luna doesn't cover occlusion culling, only frustum culling. I hear the Programming Gems series mentioned a lot, but I can't attest to its name personally. http://http.developer.nvidia.com/GPUGems/gpugems_ch29.html
Hope this helps.
Oct-trees are fairly simple, especially axis aligned ones like those in mine craft.
It is basically just a 3D extension of the quad-tree. You may find it easier to learn about Quad-trees first.
To give you a quick overview of a quad-tree; basically you start off with a square. Now imagine placing a much smaller square in that square. If you wish to build a quad tree representing it you first divide the original square into 4 equal sized squares.
Next you check each quadrant and if the smaller square is in that quadrant you split that quadrant into 4 smaller sized squares. Then you check those 4 quadrants choose the quadrant and subdivide. Eventually your smaller square will be wholly contained in one or more quadrants inside quadrants inside quadrants (etc). You have now built your quad tree.
Now if you imagine you are searching for a specific square inside the larger square you can quickly see the bonus of a quad-tree. Instead of searching every possible square in the quad tree (equivalent to searching every pixel in a texture) you can now check the first 4 quadrants to see if they contain it. If one does you can check its 4 sub quadrants and so on until you find the smallest quadrant wholly containing your square (or pixel). This way you end up doing many fewer tests to find your object.
Now an oct-tree is basically the same thing but instead of encoding squares in squares you now encode cubes in cubes. Every cube can be split into 8 smaller octants (and hence the name oct-tree).
Oct-trees have the advantage that by knowing which octant you are starting in you can easily cast rays through the oct-tree to find collisions (as an octant is either full, partially full or it is empty). If an octant is empty then you pass right through it and then check the octant on the other side. If it is partially full you check its sub-octants and so on until you either find a full octant (ie you've hit a solid cube and you render it) or you pass through the octant entirely and hence there is no cube to render. This is how minecraft works (I'm guessing anyway ;)). This is also a good way of quickly rendering voxel data which more people are looking into these days as a possible future rendering mechanism.
Hope thats some help! :)
Oct-trees and quad-trees are useful for culling sections of your geometry to render. Minecraft uses 16x16x16 render blocks to break up the terrain into manageable pieces.
Another technique to consider is instancing. Instancing is where you tell the GPU to render an object multiple times in different locations. It's used for crowd rendering, trees, anything where the geometry is the same, but you have lots of them.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb173349(v=vs.85).aspx
http://http.developer.nvidia.com/GPUGems2/gpugems2_chapter03.html
Here is an article where the writer duplicates the minecraft renderer in OpenGL 4. While the code won't apply to your case the techniques (culling cubes that are surrounded, etc) can be applied to a directx renderer.
http://codeflow.org/entries/2010/dec/09/minecraft-like-rendering-experiments-in-opengl-4/
Don't be fooled by the blocky graphics and the low quality textures. Minecraft is an extremely complex renderer and you'll need to come up with ways to handle the sheer number of items involved. For example even a "small" part of the world, say 100x100x100 blocks is 1 million blocks. To push each block to the GPU as a separate mesh would kill your GPU. The Minecraft renderer is far more complex than most first person shooters when you get down to the technology.
I'd like to build an app using the new GLKit framework, and I'm in need of some design advice. I'd like to create an app that will present up to a couple thousand "bricks" (objects with very simple geometry). Most will have identical texture, but up to a couple hundred will have unique texture. I'd like the bricks to appear every few seconds, move into place and then stay put (in world coords). I'd like to simulate a camera whose position and orientation are controlled by user gestures.
The advice I need is about how to organize the code. I'd like my model to be a collection of bricks that have a lot more than graphical data associated with them:
Does it make sense to associate a view-like object with each handle geometry, texture, etc.?
Should every brick have it's own vertex buffer?
Should each have it's own GLKBaseEffect?
I'm looking for help organizing what object should do what during setup, then rendering.
I hope I can stay close to the typical MVC pattern, with my GLKViewController observing model state changes, controlling eye coordinates based on gestures, and so on.
Would be much obliged if you could give some advice or steer me toward a good example. Thanks in advance!
With respect to the models, I think an approach analogous to the relationship between UIImage and UIImageView is appropriate. So every type of brick has a single vertex buffer,GLKBaseEffect, texture and whatever else. Each brick may then appear multiple times just as multiple UIImageViews may use the same UIImage. In terms of keeping multiple reference frames, it's actually a really good idea to build a hierarchy essentially equivalent to UIView, each containing some transform relative to the parent and one sort being able to display a model.
From the GLKit documentation, I think the best way to keep the sort of camera you want (and indeed the object locations) is to store it directly as a GLKMatrix4 or a GLKQuaternion — so you don't derive the matrix or quaternion (plus location) from some other description of the camera, rather the matrix or quaternion directly is the storage for the camera.
Both of those classes have methods built in to apply rotations, and GLKMatrix4 can directly handle translations. So you can directly map the relevant gestures to those functions.
The only slightly non-obvious thing I can think of when dealing with the camera in that way is that you want to send the inverse to OpenGL rather than the thing itself. Supposing you use a matrix, the reasoning is that if you wanted to draw an object at that location you'd load the matrix directly then draw the object. When you draw an object at the same location as the camera you want it to end up being drawn at the origin. So the matrix you have to load for the camera is the inverse of the matrix you'd load to draw at that location because you want the two multiplied together to be the identity matrix.
I'm not sure how complicated the models for your bricks are but you could hit a performance bottleneck if they're simple and all moving completely independently. The general rule when dealing with OpenGL is that the more geometry you can submit at once, the faster everything goes. So, for example, an entirely static world like that in most games is much easier to draw efficiently than one where everything can move independently. If you're drawing six-sided cubes and moving them all independently then you may see worse performance than you might expect.
If you have any bricks that move in concert then it is more efficient to draw them as a single piece of geometry. If you have any bricks that definitely aren't visible then don't even try to draw them. As of iOS 5, GL_EXT_occlusion_query_boolean is available, which is a way to pass some geometry to OpenGL and ask if any of it is visible. You can use that in realtime scenes by building a hierarchical structure describing your data (which you'll already have if you've directly followed the UIView analogy), calculating or storing some bounding geometry for each view and doing the draw only if the occlusion query suggests that at least some of the bounding geometry would be visible. By following that sort of logic you can often discard large swathes of your geometry long before submitting it.
I'm making a game with my friend that involves randomly generating planets based on certain properties. Originally this game was all 2D, but now we've decided to enhance the purpose of planets in the game and make it 2.5D, with planets being rendered as 3D spheres in an otherwise 2D world. Now, up to this point we had a pretty good thing going with the way planets looked. We used layered textures, one for each property (water, land, atmosphere) depending on how our algorithms created the planet. This looked pretty, but the planet surfaces were largely lame and didn't vary as they were all made from the same few textures.
Now that we are going 3D, I want to create a nice planetary map which will determine the topography of the planet based on its properties to make each planet have different bodies of water, land masses, etc. I also want to draw different textures on the surface of the planet based on that map, with them blending together at the edges.
I've considered two possibilities: rendering the textures based on the map to a RenderTarget and then wrapping that RenderTarget around my sphere model, or converting the map to vertex data and writing a shader to draw the textures with the proper weight.
The problem is, I'm a novice at both RenderTargets and HLSL (as a matter of fact, I don't even know if the RenderTarget method is possible), so I feel the need for some guidance here. What would be recommended for rendering multiple textures to a sphere model based on a generated terrain map? Also, are there any suggestions for what format to create the terrain map in (it would be some sort of data structure which would represent the type of terrain at any coordinate on the planet's surface)?
I have looked at other multi-texture tutorials, but they all seem based on a pre-determined texture or set of values. I need to be able to randomly generate the terrain in-game.