Can ASP.NET MVC Views be re-used across different projects? - asp.net-mvc

This is a follow-up question to this question.
It's a nice solution to sharing common Views across many projects using source control. However I have a couple of questions, specific to Subversion I think.
Subversion Externals allows you to include a folder from a separate repository in your working copy, so you could define an "External" property on the working copy root that added a folder: [/Web/Views/Forum] for example.
What would happen if you wanted to override one of these views with a version specific to one of the dependant projects?
If you added an additional View in that folder, would SVN commit it to the shared repository?
Is the answer at this stage "wait for MVC2", as I believe it is better for these kind of scenarios?
Thanks,
GC

svn:externals are not the answer to your problem
Just to clarify: when using svn:externals, you're really adding a link to the actual external repository. Whatever you modify/add/delete and commit (given that you have commit access to the external repository) from your working copy will simply get committed to that repository. Everyone else using the same repo (as external or not) will get those changes on a subsequent update.
If you really need to be able to modify the views, you will have to work out a branching & merging scheme I'm afraid. If that is the case, make sure it's really worth the trouble.
EDIT: As an answer to the original question, I think your best bet is to wait for ASP.Net MVC 2. You may want to have a look at this series of blog posts by Eric Hexter, explaining 'Portable Areas' with mvc2 and mvccontrib

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Git repository structure for two iOS apps where one app derives heavily from the other

The scenario is as follows. I am working at a company that started out with one iOS application. Now, the company is interested in creating a second iOS application, that shares much of the same code base. The original application was not written with the intention of being reusable, as it was not known at the time that a second similar application would be created. In future, there may be even more similar applications that build on the existing code base.
We are trying to determine the "best" option with respect to how we maintain the source code going forward. So some of the options we're contemplating include single repository with shared library, one repository for shared library and one repository that contains all of the iOS applications, one repository for shared library and one repository per iOS application, etc etc. There's also the question of whether to use git submodules or not if using multiple repositories etcetera.
Currently, the two applications + library are all in one git repository. One of the advantages of this is that a developer can checkout a commit of the single repository and expect the product to build, without having to worry about updating multiple repositories. Basically, the developer doesn't have to be concerned with multiple repositories needing to move in lockstep with one another or requiring some specific combination of repositories commits for a build to work. The developer also doesn't have to worry about cases where another developer may have remembered to commit one repository, but not the other.
Here are some more things I've considered:
Submodules
I've used submodules before, but am no expert. My understanding is that the "super" repository containing a submodule also stores a reference to a specific commit of the submodule. This partly deals with ensuring that multiple repositories (i.e. application + library) would move in lockstep, though I'm guessing there are still issues with needing to manually pull changes from the sub module. Also, issues with a submodule commit not being available to pull if a developer happens to forget to push its changes and it is referred to by the super repository.
One nice aspect of submodules is that it creates a stronger semantic separation between the library and the applications which happen to use the library. Whether this is useful in practice, I'm not sure.
Single repository
As previously stated, this is what we're currently doing. Two applications + shared library code all in one repository. The greatest concern has been around the relatively non-existent ability to isolate changes between project one and two and the library. E.g. someone makes changes to both some library code and some application code in a single commit. Then, another developer just wants the changes in the library code.
One nice aspect of single repository is that everything moves in lockstep - nobody has to worry about keeping multiple repository versions matched. If using XCode workspaces, refactorings are even possible across the two applications.
Branching
Another option is to use some kind of branching model, either in a single or multiple repositories, to manage the code.
Ultimately, we're just trying to figure out a good model going forward for managing two or more iOS applications plus shared library code. Whether this be achieved via multiple repositories, submodules, branching models, or something else. Any general suggestions on the pros and cons of the various options?
Use submodules. You don't need to be an expert because they are really easy to use. Especially when combined with a GUI like SourceTree. I had the exact same scenario as you and that is what I did. SourceTree will even warn you if you are trying to commit a repo that has uncommited changes in a submodule.
A single repository is ludicrous. That would mean that every time someone new wanted to download a project, they would have to download them all.
Branching is going to turn out to be too complicated with making bug fixes that apply to all relevant branches.
The structure I have for my current project is:
Project repo (For the project I am personally working on)
-Project base repo (For shared code between team members)
--Utilities repo (For code that is reusable in any project)
Cocoapods, they make managing related code between applications simple.
We had a similar base for a suite of apps and initially it was a huge pain to manage but once you get custom cocoapods running you will never look back. You should check out this for a starting guide on managing your own cocoapods.
It's free, it's powerful and you will wonder why you never used them sooner.

best practice: how to add an external framework to xcode project which is under version control?

xcode project under version control. multiple developers work on it. when adding 3rd party frameworks i prefere to keep them outside the git repo.
so whats the best practice when it comes to adding a framework (i.e. facebookSDK) to the project?
currently frameworks are "referenced". this way i have a relative path pointing outside my git repo in project.pbxproj...fail.
pretty confident that the answer is straight forward/simple and actually easy to find in the web, but it seems like i'm asking google the wrong questions...
thx.
AFAIK, there are basically two ways to be absolutely sure that a given commit uses a known version of a framework.
Commit the built framework into your repository. This is the common approach.
Use submodules to reference a repository that houses builds of the framework. You'll probably have to create and maintain such a repository yourself.
Option 2 has the benefit of keeping your repository small, but is more hassle, particularly since submodules are something of a pain to work with.

Project organization in Xcode4

How do you organize your Xcode4 projects?
With reference to groups/directories
in Xcode vs. on Disk
With reference
to SCM (I'm using Subversion for my
projects)
I'm looking for something similar to this (which is for Xcode3).
Marking marcus's comment as the answer:
Actually you can take the information from your link and go ahead
using the same approach on Xcdoe4 projects. There is not big
difference when it comes to disk location and SCM. Besides this I more
prefer a module-wise organisation (so Controller, View, Model classes
used within the Controller all go into one subdir)

Sharing Models between two Rails Projects - using git submodules?

I have a Rails website which has been divided into two separate projects - the public site, and the administration site.
As both sites are using the same database the models are shared between the applications (actually right now they are duplicated). The problem I have here is that when an update to the models occurs in the public project I need to copy the changes over into the admin project.
I've had a look around SO and noticed that there was a question which had answers suggesting using svn:external or git submodule, but I'm not entirely sure how to do this.
Essentially my aim is to be able to make the changes in one place only, commit those changes to git and then be able to pull the changes in the other project when I need to update that as well.
You need to:
commit the submodule in one place
commit the main project (said the public site)
go to the same submodule in the other main project (the admin site)
pulling the latest content (changing the HEAD of that submodule)
going one directory up in the main (admin) project
commit (to record that you now reference a different version of the submodule)
See also true nature of submodules.
Do not use submodules. They are ugly, hard to understand and to maintain. Much better is to use subtrees.
Git subtree is a part of GIT since 1.7.11 and I wrote an article about sharing code between Rails applications: http://igor-alexandrov.github.com/blog/2013/03/28/using-git-subtree-to-share-code-between-rails-applications/
In short: yes git-subtree works and works great!

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I desperately need source control to manage projects between more than one developer.
A long time ago I used Visual Source Safe and it worked quite well.
What free substitutes can be recommended? I have the following basic requirements:
I need to host the repository on my own server.
I do not want extra clutter within my source files, like CVS does.
I need proper check in / check out, so that nobody can change a module until I've checked it back in.
I don't want / need source code merging / branching.
We use Delphi for web development, so many HTML files, images, SQL files, etc.
Any recommendations?
Git or Mercurial.
both are distributed and fast (each repository can act as 'server')
no extra clutter just one .git or .hg directory
you can pull changes from trusted or verified sources
I'll always recommend subversion with Visual SVN for server software and Tortoise SVN for the clients. You can exclusively check out files, so that nobody else can edit them, although that's not the default behavior. The only "clutter" it adds is a hidden .svn folder in every directory that is under version control.
If you insist on zero-clutter, and also free, you have limited choices. If you are open source, you can have a free copy of perforce. No clutter. SVN has clutter like CVS: a .something directory in each directory. git and hg just have one directory of clutter per clone.
If you absolutely insist on a checkout model, you have to give something up. P4 will do it, but none of the others will very well. Most people are more concerned these days with allowing disconnected operation than with a concept of locking. even svn lock only prevents checkin, not starting to modify.
There are other more obscure systems out there (e.g. arch) that you might look into.
I discourage the checkout/checkin approach. A decent version control system should be able to merge changes. This provides you with plenty of choices: CVS, SVN and Git.
As for "clutter" in your source files: I don't consider repository directories (e.g. .svn or .git) clutter, as this allows you to copy the repository structure.
Nevertheless, in SVN (not sure about Git) you can lock/unlock a file, basically mimicking the VSS checkout/checkin.
You should read a bit and learn a bit before you consign yourself and your fellow developers to living in the dark-ages of version control.
Visual Source Safe and the locking model of version control are dead. Most people have moved on. Those that have not are usually afraid of (or loathe) the idea of branching, and merging. Once they see that branching and merging can be easier, and more effective, then they can move onwards and upwards into a new world of version control options.
Ask yourself a few of these questions:
Would I like to separate the act of creating a new feature from the act of inflicting it on other developers, and on the final product (my live website)? If so, then I need branches. One branch = No effective version control.
Have I asked the other developers who will be working with me, what practices they find effective in multi-developer projects, and do they agree with me that locks are the way to go, or am I unilaterally enforcing my way of working with them? (You can have foo.pas for today, but try to get it checked in by 3 pm because I need to make a change to method bar inside foo.pas, later today.)
If I state that I want to make sure developers "avoid using old versions" do I have reasons for that other than that I hate or fear merging? Can we not think of any ways to prevent "using old versions"? Also, can we not think of any reasons when using old versions might be exactly what you have to do? If you used a non-locking tool like Subversion, why not say "please update before you commit". Then you will never have to merge, but if someone wishes to work with a non-changing version of the sources while developing the feature and then wishes to do the merging themselves, and you never have to merge yourself, you could insist that your work be done with locking (using subversion) but allow others the freedom to use a workflow that solves their problems, instead of yours.
Suppose (as you said in comments above) someone is removing something that you are in the act of creating. Wouldn't it be nice to see a complete list of his changes and say "I would like those changes gone, without removing other changes made by other people". This is known as working with "changesets" and is a key feature of DVCS like Mercurial (hg) and Git. In fact, the ability to prevent other people from modifying YOUR local repository willy-nilly, but rather making changes, which you can then review, and either accept or not accept will always be better at creating coherence on your (master) copy of the repository than any localized, centralized locking model can ever be.
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You might like to investigate Team Coherence (http://www.teamcoherence.com). It doesn't create special folders and has a Delphi bent to it. For example, it groups .pas and .dfm files together by default. Help is excellent. It's also now free for a single license. I've been using it for years after previously using CVS and FreeVCS.
SourceGear's Vault is free for 1 user, and it gives you checkin/checkout plus merge-style operations. It also works totally clutter-free. I have been using it for some time and it works wonders. Transition from SourceSafe is especially easy, and integration with IDEs such as Visual Studio or Eclipse is very good.
Hmm, define "clutter" - to my mind a hidden directory per folder isn't clutter, frankly it hasn't been an issue at all (for reference, 7 years of first CVS then Subversion and prior to that VSS and something distributed the name of which eludes me).
Subversion is excellent and installation is almost trivial with VisualSVN server and use is straightforward with Tortoise as a client. Locking of files is an option, not a good one in the general instance but its there for binary files if you need it. This is probably the closest match to your criteria and I like it. A lot.
For personal use I'm playing with Mercurial - but not done enough to say more than that it works (and of course like most DVCS it fails your "lock" criteria). DVCS is different and has some issues.
If you have money, Vault (http://www.sourcegear.com) is worth a look - especially if you used and liked VSS since it started out as a "better" VSS though it has evolved somewhat. Worth visiting sourcegear just to read Erik Sink's thoughts on version control.
As for the rest, whilst I'm sympathetic to a wish not to (have to) merge stuff, writing off tagging and branching is pretty much the same as saying "I don't need version control" - it turns out not to be the case.
No one is recommending Bazaar, so here I am, I use it in my everyday work with Delphi projects.
It has a diff viewer that rocks, and that, for me at least, makes the difference with the other svn-like repositories.
I haven't used it for many years but I believe Jedi VCS meets all your criteria with the added bonus that it's written in Delphi and has some built-in smarts when it comes to handling dfm files.
We are using Fossil for source code managment of our Delphi programs.
It's very easy to use (if you like the KISS command line approach), and there is an internal web-based interface.
There is no installation needed, since it's only one executable to run. It's perfectly cross-platform: you can have your own repository on your Windows machine, then clone/synchronize it into any other server, running on Windows or Linux.
You can see our repository of Open Source Delphi programs hosted by Fossil on our web site. For internal work, I've found out that Fossil uses little bandwidth (much less than CVS or SVN), and is able to synchronize huge projects in a blitz, even via an ADSL or a 3G connection.
Here are some unique features, included in Fossil (with no third-party component to setup):
Bug Tracking And Wiki
Web Interface
Autosync
Self-Contained
Simple Networking - Fossil uses plain old HTTP
CGI Enabled - No server is required to use fossil.
Robust & Reliable
I would recommend Plastic SCM: http://www.plasticscm.com/
the best (?) merging and branching support!
but you can also use single branch + exclusive checkout (aka lock)
very nice and handy GUI
free up to 15 users
very good support (within a day, mostly within an hour!)
very modern, automatic merging and branching, distributed, etc
Delphi plugin available: http://code.google.com/p/plastic4delphi/

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