Delphi - Creating controls before form Create is run? - delphi

Question

Well, my problem is as follows:
I have a Delphi 5 application that I'm essentially porting to Delphi 2010 (replacing old components with their latest versions, fixing the inevitable Ansi/Unicode string issues, etc.) and I've run into kind of a hitch.
Upon creation of one of our forms, an access violation happens. After looking it over, I've come to the conclusion that the reason for this is because one of the setters called in Create attempts to change a property of an object on the form that hasn't been created yet.
I've trimmed it down a little, but the code basically looks like this:
In form declaration:
property EnGrpSndOption:boolean read fEnGrpSndOption write SetGrpSndOption;
In form's Create:
EnGrpSndOption := false;
In Implementation:
procedure Myform.SetGrpSndOption(const Value: boolean);
begin
fEnGrpSndOption := Value;
btGrpSnd.Visible := Value;
end;
By tossing in a ShowMessage(BooltoStr(Assigned(btGrpSend), true)) right before btGrpSnd.Visible := Value, I confirmed that the problem is that btGrpSnd hasn't been created yet.
btGrpSend is an LMDButton, but I'm pretty sure that isn't quite relevant as it hasn't even been created yet.
While I realize I probably should only assign a value after confirming that the control is assigned, this would just result in the value set in create not being set to the actual control.
So what I want to do is find a way to make certain that all the controls on the form are created BEFORE my Create is run.
Any assistance in doing this, or information regarding how Delphi creates forms would be appreciated.
It worked back in Delphi 5, so I imagine the cause of this should be mentioned somewhere among the lists of changes between versions. Delphi 2010 is quite a bit newer than Delphi 5 after all.

Answer 1

Like Tobias mentioned (but advocates against) you can change the creation order (right at the form at change the creation order).
But you can also in the setter method check if the form is creating (csCreating in form.componentstate). And if it is you have to store that property value yourself, and handle it in AfterConstruction.

Answer 2

From your comment that you're getting an AV when placing it at design time, that means there's a problem with the control itself and it hasn't been properly ported forward. To reproduce it at runtime under controlled circumstances, you need to write a little program like this:
Make a new VCL app with a single form. Place a TButton on the form. On the button's OnClick, do something like this:
var
newButton: TLMDButton;
begin
newButton := TLMDButton.Create(self);
newButton.Parent := self;
//assign any other properties you'd like here
end;
Put a breakpoint on the constructor and trace into it until you can find what's causing the access violation.
EDIT: OK, from looking at the comments, I think we found your problem!
A form's subcontrols are initialized by reading the DFM file. When you changed your control to a TCustomForm, did you provide a new DFM to define it? If not, you need to override the form's constructor and create the controls and define their properties manually. There's no "magic" that will initialize it for you.

Answer 3

Your Create is always called first, before the ancestor constructor. That's just how constructors work. You should be able to call the inherited constructor before you do the rest of your initialization:
constructor MyForm.Create(Owner: TComponent);
begin
inherited;
EnGrpSndOption := False;
end;
However, there's a better way of indicating what it is you're trying to make happen. Your class is loading properties from a DFM resource. When it's finished, it will call a virtual method named Loaded. It's usually used to notify all the children that everything is ready, so if any of them hold references to other children on the form, they know it's safe to use those references at that point. You can override it in the form, too.
procedure MyForm.Loaded;
begin
inherited;
EnGrpSndOption := False;
end;
That generally shouldn't make much difference in your case, though. Loaded is called from the constructor right after the form finishes loading itself from the DFM resource. That resource tells the form all the controls it should create for itself. If your button isn't being created, then it's probably not listed correctly in the DFM. It's possible for controls to be listed in the DFM that don't have corresponding fields in the class. On the other hand, if there's a published field that doesn't have a corresponding entry in the DFM, the IDE should warn you about it and offer to remove the declaration each time you bring it up in the Form Designer. View your DFM as text and confirm that there's really an entry for a control named btGrpSnd.

Answer 4

Is this good enough to get you going:
if Assigned(btGrpSnd) and btGrpSnd.HandleAllocated then
btGrpSnd.Visible := ...

Answer 5

I see 2 possibilities: check if btGrpSnd is nil before assigning Value to the Visible property. If it's nil, you could either:
not set the property
create btGrpSnd
I would not mess around with the creation order. It's more complicated and may break with further changes.
from your comment: you can check wether you are in design or in runtime mode. Check wether your are in designtime before setting the visibility.
if not (csDesigning in Componentstate) then
begin
btGrpSnd:=Value;
end;
Answer to your comment:
go for this:
procedure Myform.SetGrpSndOption(const Value: boolean);
begin
fEnGrpSndOption := Value;
if btGrpSnd<>nil then btGrpSnd.Visible := Value;
end;
and one additional property setting btGrpSnd. If it is set to a value <> nil, set the visibility safed in fEnGrpSndOption as well.
If there's no need to set btGrpSnd outside Myform, create a init-procedure that creates everything. E.g.:
constructor Myform.Create(...)
begin
init;
end;
procedure init
begin
btGrpSnd:=TButton.Create;
...
end;
procedure Myform.SetGrpSndOption(const Value: boolean);
begin
fEnGrpSndOption := Value;
if btGrpSnd<>nil then init;
btGrpSnd.Visible := Value;
end;
This is still better then depending on some changed init-code-hack that may break in the future.