There are many articles and videos comparing containers, virtual machines, physical machines. However almost all information is theoretical: containers are fast, VMs are secure, etc. But I could not find description of specific use cases or guidance on when to choose virtual machines, physical machines, but not containers. So, currently I cannot imagine situation when somebody gives recommendation to not use containers.
Question:
Could you please list specific applications or solutions when you would recommend using VMs, but not container?
Could you please list specific applications or solutions when you would recommend using OS over bare metal, but not containers or VMs?
Here is example of answer I would appreciate to get (note, that I am not sure if this information is correct):
Use case 1: Edge Router
Edge router is a router which connects organizational network to the Internet. Also, in this case it is assumed, that vendor of the router provides it not as device but as a software package (virtualized router).
Edge router most probably will be one of target of hacker's attacks. Thus security requirements come to the first place.
Containers are not recommended in this case. By default containers provide mediocre level of security. Strong security can be achieved with complex configuration (what configuration?) but this is more difficult than in case of VM or bare metal. In addition, high security level may require special hardened Linux kernel, however containers technology does not allow adjusting kernel configuration.
Virtual Machines would be a good choice if vendor of the router provides software as VM image or when organization has many edge routers (for example, many offices with internet access points), and has (or is ready to create) well-established process of preparation of VM images. In this case using VMs will simplify rollout, update and healing the virtualized edge router. VM also provides high security level; nevertheless is it still recommended to place such a VM in a separate server and to not share same server with other applications/VMs to avoid cross-VM attacks.
Physical machine would be a good choice if router vendor provides router's software as an application package (not as a VM) such as .rpm, and rollout, update and healing processes are not expected to take much efforts; this might be the case when when company has few routers (so updates can be performed manually or automated with tools like Ansible), and couple of hour of planned and unplanned downtime is acceptable.
Use case 2: ...
Thank you in advance.
The question is a bit vague so I'll try my best:
you'd usually allocate work to containers when you have a few separate applications with limited physical resources and you'd like to run them each with their own different environment (different runtime version, architecture and dependencies) which managing on a machine (physical or virtual) would be cumbersome.
you'd use a VM when you want specifically a feature that containers couldn't satisfy or it would just be a headache to set them up with it and a simple quick and easy VM could solve (and again you have limited resources you'd like to share between use cases)
and finally, a physical machine when performance is of the essence like I/O requests and latency around that.
you can also mix and match to match each tier needs:
we need to run many applications that VM would be too much of an overhead for them and containers would make their handling more automated and streamline so containers with k8s, but on the other hand, we want local storage offered to those containers to be very fast so we run the k8s cluster on physical machines.
if recoverability would be of the essence we would have used VM due to the options of snapshotting VM states over time.
It's all a big LEGO set you can mix and match depending on your use case and needs
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My organization manages systems where each client is provisioned a VPS and then their tech stack is spun up on that system via Docker Compose.
Data is stored on-system, using Docker Compose volumes. None of the fancy named storage - just good old direct path volumes.
While this solution is workable, the problem is that this method does not scale. We can always give the VPS more CPU/Memory but that does not fix the underlying issues.
Staging / development environments must be brought up manually - and there is no service redundancy. Hot swapping is impossible with our current system.
Kubernetes has been pitched to me to solve our problems, but honestly I have no idea where to begin - most of the documentation is obtuse and I have failed to find somebody with our particular predicament.
The end goal would be to have just a few high-spec machines running Kubernetes - with redundancy, staging, and the ability to spin up new clients as necessary (without having to provision additional machines or external IPs).
What specific tools would my organization need to use to achieve this goal?
Are there any tools that would allow us to bring over our existing Docker Compose stacks into Kubernetes?
Where to begin: given what you're telling us, I would first look into my options to implement some SDS.
You're currently using local volumes, which you probably won't be able to do with Kubernetes - or at least shouldn't, if you don't want to bind your containers to a unique node.
The most easy way - while not necessarily the one I would recommend - would be to use some NFS servers. Even better: with some DRBD, pacemaker / corosync, using a VIP for failover -- or the FreeBSD way: hastd, carp, ifstated, maybe some zfs. You would probably have to deploy distinct systems scaling your Kubernetes cluster, distributing IOs, ... a single NFS server doesn't last long without its load going over 50 and iowaits spiking ...
A better way would be to look into actual SDS solutions. One I could recommend is Ceph, though there's a lot of new solutions I'm less familiar with ... and there's GlusterFS I would definitely avoid. An easy way to deploy Ceph would be to use ceph-ansible.
Given what corporate hardware you have at your disposal, maybe you would have some NetApp or equivalent, something that can implement NFS shares, and/or some iSCSI gateways.
Now, those are all solutions you could run on the side, although note that you would also find "CNS" solutions (container native), which are meant to be deployed on top of Kubernetes. Ceph clusters can be managed using Rook. These can be interesting, though in terms of maintenance and operations, it requires good knowledge of both the solution you operate and kubernetes/containers in general: troubleshooting issues and fixing outages may not be as easy as a good-old bare-meta/VM setup. For a first Kubernetes experience: I would refrain myself. When you'll feel comfortable enough, go ahead.
In any cases, another critical consideration before deploying your cluster would be the network that would host your installation. Consider that Kubernetes should not be directly deployed on public instances: you would probably want to have some private VLAN, maybe an internal DNS, a local resitry (could be Kubernetes-hosted), or other tools such as an LDAP server, some SMTP relay, HTTP cache/proxies, loadbalancers to put in front of your API, ...
Once you've made up your mind regarding those issues, you can look into deploying a Kubernetes cluster using tools such as Kubespray (ansible) or Kops (uses Terraform, and thus requires some cloud API, eg: aws). Both projects are part of the Kubernetes project and maintained by its community. Kubespray would cover all scenarios (IAAS & bare-metal), integrate with popular SDS out of the box, can ship with various ingress controllers, ... overall offers good defaults, and lots of variables to customize your installation.
Start with a 3-master 2-workers cluster, make sure the resulting cluster matches what you would expect.
Before going to prod, take your time to properly translate your existing configurations. Sometime, refactoring code or images could be worth it.
Going to prod, consider adding a group of "infra" nodes: if you want to host some logging solution or other internal services that are somewhat critical to users and shouldn't suffer outages caused by end-users workloads (eg: ingress routers, monitoring, logging, integrated registry, ...).
Kubespray: https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/kubespray/
Kops: https://github.com/kubernetes/kops
Ceph: https://ceph.com/en/discover/
Ceph Ansible: https://github.com/ceph/ceph-ansible
Rook (Ceph CNS): https://github.com/rook/rook
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How is Docker different from a virtual machine?
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Is there any guidelines on when to use Dockers over VM's? (or vice versa)
It seems to me that services like NGINX, Apache, or Redis, should be a docker, but I am unsure if say an ElasticSearch docker should be used in a HPC environment.
Is a Docker always better then a VM?
First, it is a container; docker is one implementation of a container, neither the first nor the last.
A virtual machine (VM) is a superset of a container, so the question isn't about better, it is about depth - namely how much isolation do you need. At the most trivial level, isolation is about getting away from the .so-insanity that plagues the universe; determine what you need, dump it in a container, and voila, no more compatibility problems. At this level, the container is mainly about packaging; and nothing can go wrong with making packaging magic. Just make sure your resume is up to date.
At deeper levels, containers can be involved in isolated deployments. These work, but typically require substantial amounts of management software: orchestration software (k8s), service mess (istio :), [A-Z]AAS. Somewhere in this wilderness they intersect with Virtual Machines, which pre-package many concepts in the other layers, albeit with a different management platform.
Within the domain of VMs, we see a continuum of awareness within the guest of the host which extends from similar to the container (ie. highly dependent) to blithely ignorant (ie. classic virtual machine). The selection criteria in this arena mainly falls in the domain of trust -- this less you trust the guest, the more you want to isolate it; or the less the guest trusts the host environment, the more isolated it wants to be.
To review; in the realm of isolation, containers and VMs occupy overlapping extremes of a continuum. The container is the lightest way to manage packaging, but as the isolation needs increase, the VM becomes increasingly attractive. Within the VM continuum, there are trade offs between trust and performance. There is a tonne of software supporting every stop along the way; but that software is not (yet) unified.
I was going through the documentation for docker. It was providing the concepts for virtual machine before container. The author stated that, a server can be divided into multiple virtual machines having their own operating system. He also stated that, this way, multiple applications can be run in one physical server by running each of them in separate virtual machine (one virtual machine for one application). I was little bit confused here. Can't multiple applications run in one virtual machine (operating system) without the need for other vm ? By applications, what do we mean? I am a total beginner in this topic. If anyone could make me understand this terminology, I would be very grateful. Thank You.
An application is a service or a process such as: Nginx, PHP, Redis, Apache, Memcached and so on.
The reason why is recommended this way it is because containers have been designed to isolate a process by giving its own userspace and filesystem.
Therefore, this comes of benefits such as: having just one process per container makes it easily re-usable for another projects, easily scalable and you also separate worries so for example if run 2 applications inside a container and you want to shut one of them then will that process gracefully stop or you will have to stop the entire container?
I'm trying to understand the benefits of Docker better and I am not really understanding how it would work in production.
Let's say I have a web frontend, a rest api backend and a db. That makes 3 containers.
Let's say that I want 3 of the front end, 5 of the backend and 7 of the db. (Minor question: Does it ever make sense to have less dbs than backend servers?)
Now, given the above scenario, if I package them all on the same host then I gain the benefit of efficiently using the resources of the host, but then I am DOA when that machine fails or has a network partition.
If I separate them into 1 full application (ie 1 FE, 1 BE & 1 DB) per host, and put extra containers on their own host, I get some advantages of using resources efficiently, but it seems to me that I still lose significantly when I have a network partition since it will take down multiple services.
Hence I'm almost leaning to the conclusion that I should be putting in 1 container per host, but then that means I am using my resources pretty inefficiently and then what are the benefits of containers in production? I mean, an OS might be an extra couple gigs per machine in storage size, but most cloud providers give you a minimum of 10 gigs storage. And let's face it, a rest api backend or a web front end is not gonna even come close to the 10 gigs...even including the OS.
So, after all that, I'm trying to figure out if I'm missing the point of containers? Are the benefits of keeping all containers of an application on 1 host, mostly tied to testing and development benefits?
I know there are benefits from moving containers amongst different providers/machines easily, but for the most part, I don't see that as a huge gain personally since that was doable with images...
Are there any other benefits for containers in production that I am missing? Or are the main benefits for testing and development? (Am I thinking about containers in production wrong)?
Note: The question is very broad and could fill an entire book but I'll shed some light.
Benefits of containers
The exciting part about containers is not about their use on a single host, but their use across hosts connected on a large cluster. Do not look at your machines as independent docker hosts, but as a pool of resource to host your containers.
Containers alone are not ground-breaking (ie. Docker's CTO stating at the last DockerCon that "nobody cares about containers"), but coupled to state of the art schedulers and container orchestration frameworks, they become a very powerful abstraction to handle production-grade software.
As to the argument that it also applies to Virtual Machines, yes it does, but containers have some technical advantage (See: How is Docker different from a normal virtual machine) over VMs that makes them convenient to use.
On a Single host
On a single host, the benefits you can get from containers are (amongst many others):
Use as a development environment mimicking the behavior on a real production cluster.
Reproducible builds independent of the host (convenient for sharing)
Testing new software without bloating your machine with packages you won't use daily.
Extending from a single host to a pool of machines (cluster)
When time comes to manage a production cluster, there are two approaches:
Create a couple of docker hosts and run/connect containers together "manually" through scripts or using solutions like docker-compose. Monitoring the lifetime of your services/containers is at your charge, and you should be prepared to handle service downtime.
Let a container orchestrator deal with everything and monitor the lifetime of your services to better cope with failures.
There are plenty of container orchestrators: Kubernetes, Swarm, Mesos, Nomad, Cloud Foundry, and probably many others. They power many large-scale companies and infrastructures, like Ebay, so they sure found a benefit in using these.
Pick the right replication strategy
A container is better used as a disposable resource meaning you can stop and restart the DB independently and it shouldn't impact the backend (other than throwing an error because the DB is down). As such you should be able to handle any kind of network partition as long as your services are properly replicated across several hosts.
You need to pick a proper replication strategy, to make sure your service stays up and running. You can for example replicate your DB across Cloud provider Availability Zones so that when an entire zone goes down, your data remains available.
Using Kubernetes for example, you can put each of your containers (1 FE, 1 BE & 1 DB) in a pod. Kubernetes will deal with replicating this pod on many hosts and monitor that these pods are always up and running, if not a new pod will be created to cope with the failure.
If you want to mitigate the effect of network partitions, specify node affinities, hinting the scheduler to place containers on the same subset of machines and replicate on an appropriate number of hosts.
How many containers per host?
It really depends on the number of machines you use and the resources they have.
The rule is that you shouldn't bloat a host with too many containers if you don't specify any resource constraint (in terms of CPU or Memory). Otherwise, you risk compromising the host and exhaust its resources, which in turn will impact all the other services on the machine. A good replication strategy is not only important at a single service level, but also to ensure good health for the pool of services that are sharing a host.
Resource constraint should be dealt with depending on the type of your workload: a DB will probably use more resources than your Front-end container so you should size accordingly.
As an example, using Swarm, you can explicitely specify the number of CPUs or Memory you need for a given service (See docker service documentation). Although there are many possibilities and you can also give an upper bound/lower bound in terms of CPU or Memory usage. Depending on the values chosen, the scheduler will pin the service to the right machine with available resources.
Kubernetes works pretty much the same way and you can specify limits for your pods (See documentation).
Mesos has more fine grained resource management policies with frameworks (for specific workloads like Hadoop, Spark, and many more) and with over-commiting capabilities. Mesos is especially convenient for Big Data kind of workloads.
How should services be split?
It really depends on the orchestration solution:
In Docker Swarm, you would create a service for each component (FE, BE, DB) and set the desired replication number for each service.
In Kubernetes, you can either create a pod encompassing the entire application (FE, BE, DB and the volume attached to the DB) or create separate pods for the FE, BE, DB+volume.
Generally: use one service per type of container. Regarding groups of containers, evaluate if it is more convenient to scale the entire group of container (as an atomic unit, ie. a pod) than to manage them separately.
Sum up
Containers are better used with an orchestration framework/platform. There are plenty of available solutions to deal with container scheduling and resource management. Pick one that might fit your use case, and learn how to use it. Always pick an appropriate replication strategy, keeping in mind possible failure modes. Specify resource constraints for your containers/services when possible to avoid resource exhaustion which could potentially lead to bringing a host down.
This depends on the type of application you run in your containers. From the top of my head I can think of a couple different ways to look at this:
is your application diskspace heavy?
do you need the application fail save on multiple machines?
can you run multiple different instance of different applications on the same host without decreasing performance of them?
do you use software like kubernetes or swarm to handle your machines?
I think most of the question are interesting to answer even without containers. Containers might free you of thinking about single hosts, but you still have to decide and measure the load of your host machines yourself.
Minor question: Does it ever make sense to have less dbs than backend servers?
Yes.
Consider cases where you hit normal(without many joins) SQL select statements to get data from the database but your Business Logic demands too much computation. In those cases you might consider keeping your Back-End Service count high and Database Service count low.
It all depends on the use case which is getting solved.
The number of containers per host depends on the design ratio of the host and the workload ratio of the containers. Both ratios are
Throughput/Capacity ratios. In the old days, this was called E/B for execution/bandwidth. Execution was cpu and banwidth was I/o. Solutions were said to be cpu or I/o bound.
Today memories are very large the critical factor is usually cpu/nest
capacity. We describe workloads as cpu intense or nest intense. A useful proxy for nest capacity is the size of highest level cache. A useful design ratio estimator is (clock x cores)/cache. Fir the same core count the machine with a lower design ratio will hold more containers. In part this is because the machine with more cache will scale better and see less saturation at higher utilization. By
I'm trying to get a good understanding of container technologies but am somewhat confused. It seems like certain technologies overlap different portions of the stack and different pieces of different technologies can be used as the DevOps team sees fit (e.g., can use Docker containers but don't have to use the Docker engine, could use engine from cloud provider instead). My confusion lies in understanding what each layer of the "Container Stack" provides and who the key providers are of each solution.
Here's my layman's understanding; would appreciate any corrections and feedback on holes in my understanding
Containers: self-contained package including application, runtime environment, system libraries, etc.; like a mini-OS with an application
It seems like Docker is the de-facto standard. Any others that are notable and widely used?
Container Clusters: groups of containers that share resources
Container Engine: groups containers into clusters, manages resources
Orchestrator: is this any different from a container engine? How?
Where do Docker Engine, rkt, Kubernetes, Google Container Engine, AWS Container Service, etc. fall between #s 2-4?
This may be a bit long and present some oversimplification but should be sufficient to get the idea across.
Physical machines
Some time ago, the best way to deploy simple applications was to simply buy a new webserver, install your favorite operating system on it, and run your applications there.
The cons of this model are:
The processes may interfere with each other (because they share CPU and file system resources), and one may affect the other's performance.
Scaling this system up/down is difficult as well, taking a lot of effort and time in setting up a new physical machine.
There may be differences in the hardware specifications, OS/kernel versions and software package versions of the physical machines, which make it difficult to manage these application instances in a hardware-agnostic manner.
Applications, being directly affected by the physical machine specifications, may need specific tweaking, recompilation, etc, which means that the cluster administrator needs to think of them as instances at an individual machine level. Hence, this approach does not scale. These properties make it undesirable for deploying modern production applications.
Virtual Machines
Virtual machines solve some of the problems of the above:
They provide isolation even while running on the same machine.
They provide a standard execution environment (the guest OS) irrespective of the underlying hardware.
They can be brought up on a different machine (replicated) quite quickly when scaling (order of minutes).
Applications typically do not need to be rearchitected for moving from physical hardware to virtual machines.
But they introduce some problems of their own:
They consume large amounts of resources in running an entire instance of an operating system.
They may not start/go down as fast as we want them to (order of seconds).
Even with hardware assisted virtualization, application instances may see significant performance degradation over an application running directly on the host.
(This may be an issue only for certain kinds of applications)
Packaging and distributing VM images is not as simple as it could be.
(This is not as much a drawback of the approach, as it is of the existing tooling for virtualization.)
Containers
Then, somewhere along the line, cgroups (control groups) were added to the linux kernel. This feature lets us isolate processes in groups, decide what other processes and file system they can see, and perform resource accounting at the group level.
Various container runtimes and engines came along which make the process of creating a "container", an environment within the OS, like a namespace which has limited visibility, resources, etc, very easy. Common examples of these include docker, rkt, runC, LXC, etc.
Docker, for example, includes a daemon which provides interactions like creating an "image", a reusable entity that can be launched into a container instantly. It also lets one manage individual containers in an intuitive way.
The advantages of containers:
They are light-weight and run with very little overhead, as they do not have their own instance of the kernel/OS and are running on top of a single host OS.
They offer some degree of isolation between the various containers and the ability to impose limits on various resources consumed by them (using the cgroup mechanism).
The tooling around them has evolved rapidly to allow easy building of reusable units (images), repositories for storing image revisions (container registries) and so on, largely due to docker.
It is encouraged that a single container run a single application process, in order to maintain and distribute it independently. The light-weight nature of a container make this preferable, and leads to faster development due to decoupling.
There are some cons as well:
The level of isolation provided is a less than that in case of VMs.
They are easiest to use with stateless 12-factor applications being built afresh and a slight struggle if one tries to deploy legacy applications, clustered distributed databases and so on.
They need orchestration and higher level primitives to be used effectively and at scale.
Container Orchestration
When running applications in production, as the complexity grows, it tends to have many different components, some of which scale up/down as necessary, or may need to be scaled. The containers themselves do not solve all our problems. We need a system that solves problems associated with real large-scale applications such as:
Networking between containers
Load balancing
Managing storage attached to these containers
Updating containers, scaling them, spreading them across nodes in a multi-node cluster and so on.
When we want to manage a cluster of containers, we use a container orchestration engine. Examples of these are Kubernetes, Mesos, Docker Swarm etc. They provide a host of functionality in addition to those listed above and the goal is to reduce the effort involved in dev-ops.
GKE (Google Container Engine) is hosted Kubernetes on Google Cloud Platform. It lets a user simply specify that they need an n-node kubernetes cluster and exposes the cluster itself as a managed instance. Kubernetes is open source and if one wanted to, one could also set it up on Google Compute Engine, a different cloud provider, or their own machines in their own data-center.
ECS is a proprietary container management/orchestration system built and operated by Amazon and available as part of the AWS suite.
To answer your questions specifically:
Docker engine: A tool to manage the lifecycle of a docker container and docker images. Create, restart, delete docker containers. Create, rename, delete docker images.
rkt: Analogous to docker engine, but different implementation
Kubernetes: A collection of tools to manage the lifecycle of a distributed application that uses containers. Contains tooling to manage containers, groups of containers, configuration for containers, orchestrating containers, scheduling them on actual instances, tooling to help developers write and maintain other services/tools to deal with containers.
Google Container Engine: Instead of getting VMs, installing "docker-engine" on them, installing kubernetes on them and getting it all to work with things like the right permissions to your infrastructure etc. imagine if it all came together so that you can choose the types of machines and the size of your cluster that has all of this just working. Things like pulling images from your project specific docker repository (google container registry) or claiming persistent volumes, or provisioning load-balancers just work without worrying about service accounts and permissions and what not.
ECS: Analogous to GKE (4) but without Kubernetes.
To address the points in your understanding: you are loosely right about things (except container engine I think). It's important to understand that the only important thing to understand is what a container is. The rest of it is just marketing/product names. It's also important to understand that today's understanding of containers is very warped by what Docker containers are and a lot of the opinions enforced by Docker and tooling around Docker. Containers have been around for a long time.
So once you understand what a (docker) container is, a container engine is just a tool to manage them, a container cluster is a just a group of containers, an orchestrator is just a tool to manage where containers run based on some parameters. IMHO, you really don't need to worry too much about what the rest of the tooling is once you understand and build a solid mental model around containers. The rest will just fit in automatically.
The best way to understand all of this? Build & deploy a decently complex application with Docker (persist data/use a database in your app) and everything will make sense.