I just started learning swarm recently. And I have some questions about the swarm usage scenario.
If I have a simple webserver which response to some restful HTTP requests，swarm seems to be a good choice because if I need to expand my webserver horizontally, I just need to use docker service scale and the swarm will do load balancing for me.
But what about services that have their own clustering mechanism(Redis, elastic search?)? I cannot simply expand the capacity through the docker service scale`.
For instance, I have a Redis service, if I docker service scale redis=2, two separate Redis services are generated. This is obviously not what I need.
Are these services fit for swarm mode？If so, how to config these services in swarm mode? And how to expand it?
Stateful services (e.g. Redis, RabbitMQ, etc...) fit swarm mode.
It's your responsibility though to configure the cluster manually, by some predeploy/postdeploy script or in images entrypoint.
Such reconfiguration should run also after each replica restart regardless the reason: single replica failures and subsequent restarts, restart of all service replicas, scaling of new replicas.
Content of such script/steps may vary between clustering solutions and one should refer to the relevant documentation of each solution. It maybe as simple as putting replicas virtual ips to configuration file or complex ordered steps.
General use cases that fit all solutions are: configure cluster inside service replicas for the first time, connect single replica back to cluster after failure, restart all replicas after failure/valid restart.
Some github projects try to automate the process. For example mariadb-cluster
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Sorry for this question, but I just started with Docker and Docker Compose and I really didn't need any of this until I read that I need to use Docker Swarn or Kuebernetes to have more stability in production. I started reading about Docker Swarn and they mentioned nodes and clusters.
I was really happy not knowing about this as I understood docker-compose:
Is that I could manage my services/containers from a single file
and only have to run several commands to launch, build, delete, etc.
all my services based on the docker-compose configuration.
But now the nodes and cluster have come out and I've really gone a bit crazy, and that's why if you can help me understand this next step in the life of containers. I've been googling and it's not very clear to me.
I hope you can help me and explain it to me in a way that I can understand.
Thank you!
A node is just a physical or virtual machine.
In Kubernetes/Docker Swarm context each node must have the relevant binaries installed (Docker Engine, kubelet etc..)
A cluster is a grouping of one or more nodes.
If you have just been testing on your local machine you have a single node.
If you were to add a second machine and link both machines together using docker swarm/kubernetes then you would have created a 2 node cluster
You can then use docker swarm/kubernetes to run your services/containers on any or all nodes in your cluster. This allows your services to be more resilient and fault tolerant.
By default Docker Compose runs a set of containers on a single system. If you need to run more containers than fit on one system, or you're just afraid of that system crashing, you need more than one system to do it. The cluster is the group of all of the systems (physical computers, virtual machines, cloud instances) that are working together to run the containers. Each of those individual systems is a node.
The other important part of the cluster container setups is that you can generally run multiple replicas of a give container, and you don't care where in the cluster they run. Say you have five nodes, and a Web server container, and you'd like to run three copies of it for redundancy. Instead of having to pick a node, ssh to it, and manually docker run there, you just tell the cluster manager "run me three of these", and it chooses a node and launches the container for you. You can also scale the containers up and down at runtime, or potentially set the cluster to do the scaling on its own based on load.
If your workload is okay running a single copy of containers on a single server, you don't need a cluster setup. (You might have some downtime during updates or if the single server dies.) Swarm has the advantages of being bundled with Docker and being able to use Docker-native tools (docker-compose can deploy to a Swarm cluster). Kubernetes is much more complex, but at this point most public cloud providers will sell you a preconfigured Kubernetes cluster, and it has better stories around security, storage management, and autoscaling. There are also a couple other less-prominent alternatives like Nomad and Mesos out there.
I am deploying my application which contains three services by using Docker Swarm. As what i’ve read so far, Docker Swarm has a load-balancer to distribute container over Worker nodes automatically based on some internal factors. That is cool! but what i really need is a load-balancer which uses a set of parameters provided by me to distribute containers. Is it possible or it is too ambitious?
A set of parameters i mentioned here is obtained by running a script or code which calculate cpu usage, bandwidth, etc. Then its results will be passed to the load-balancer for distributing decision.
Thanks everyone for reading my post.
Yes, this is perfectly possible but you will end up setting whole system on your own. You can also use Nginx for proxy, fetch metrics from docker swarm or prometheus and pass the info to script to generate the upstream in nginx and reload nginx.
I have a couple of Docker swarm questions (Sorry for not splitting them up but they are all closely related):
Do all instances in a swarm have to run on different machines or can they all run on the same? (if having limited amount of hardware and just wanting to try swarm mode)
Do I have to run swarm mode to be able to communicate between instances?
What is the key difference between swarm mode and just running a number of containers as regular?
What are the options of communication between instances of containers? (in swarm and in regular mode) http? named pipes? other?
If using http communication between containers on same machine, will it be roughly similarly as fast as named pipes?
Is there any built in support for a message bus or similar in Docker?
Is there support for any consensus protocol in Docker?
Are there any GUI's for designing, managing, testing and/or debugging Docker swarms?
Can a container list other containers, stop/restart some and start new ones? (to be able to function as a manager for other containers)
Can a container be given access to OS-features (Linux in my case) to configure for instance a reverse proxy or port forwarding on the WAN?
Background: What I'm trying to figure out is how I should go about and build a micro service mesh using Docker. The containers will be running .NET Core. I'm not too keen on relying too much on specifically Docker since it may not be the preferred tech in a couple of years. What can/should I do with Docker and what can/should I do inside the containers. That's what I'm trying to figure out.
I've copied your questions and tried to answer them.
Do all instances in a swarm have to run on different machines or can they all run on the same? (if having limited amount of hardware and just wanting to try swarm mode)
You can have only one machine in a swarm and run multiple tasks of the same service or in other words your scale of a service can be more than the number of actual machines. I have a testing swarm with a single machine and one with three and it works the same way.
Do I have to run swarm mode to be able to communicate between instances?
You have to run your docker in swarm mode in order to create a service, please see this link
What is the key difference between swarm mode and just running a number of containers as regular?
The key difference afaik is, that when a task goes down, docker puts another task up automatically. And you can easily scale your services, which means you can easily have multiple tasks just by scaling your service (up or down). As of running a container - when it goes down you have to manually start another.
What are the options of communication between instances of containers? (in swarm and in regular mode) http? named pipes? other?
I've currently only tested with a couple of wildfly servers in a swarm, which are on the same network. I'm not sure about others, but would love to find out. I've only read about RabbitMQ, but can't seem to find the link atm.
If using http communication between containers on same machine, will it be roughly similarly as fast as named pipes?
I can't say.
Is there any built in support for a message bus or similar in Docker?
I can't say.
Are there any GUI's for designing, managing, testing and/or debugging Docker swarms?
I've tested rancher and portainer.io, for a list of them I found this link
Can a container list other containers, stop/restart some and start new ones?
I'm not sure why would you want to do that? And I guess it's possible, see this link
Can a container be given access to OS-features (Linux in my case) to configure for instance a reverse proxy or port forwarding on the WAN?
I can't say.
#namokarm did a great job, and I'm filling in the gaps:
Benefits of Swarm over docker run or docker-compose.
All communications between containers has to be TCP/UDP etc. You could force two containers to only run on a single machine, then bind-mount their socket so they skip the network, but that would be a bit of an anti-pattern. Swarm is designed for everything to be distributed and TCP/UDP.
In a few cases, such as PHP-FPM + Nginx, I recommend bundling both in the same container (against docker best practices, but trust me it's easier than separate containers). This will ensure they scale together (1-to-1 relationship) and stay fast since they use local sockets to communicate). I only recommend this for a few setups like this, the other being ColdFusion + Nginx because they are two parts of the same tool that provide a HTTP response... I don't recommend bundling images together in nearly all other cases, but I'm open to ideas :).
Rancher is no longer supporting Swarm. Portainer and SwarmPit are GUI options.
Yes a container running something like Portainer/SwarmPit or controlling the Docker socket through a bind-mount or TCP can control the whole Swarm. This is how all docker management works :)
For reverse proxy, you would run a container-based proxy like Traefik or Docker Flow Proxy, which sets up HAProxy for Docker and Swarm.
Many of these topics are discussed in my DockerCon talks: https://www.bretfisher.com/dockercon18/
I'm wondering whether there are any differences between the following docker setups.
Administrating two separate docker engines via the remote api.
Administrating two docker swarm nodes via one single docker engine.
I'm wondering if you can administrate a swarm with the ability run a container on a specific node are there any use cases to have separate docker engines?
The difference between the two is swarm mode. When a docker engine is running services in swarm mode you get:
Orchestration from the manager to continuously try to correct any differences between the current state and the target state. This can also include HA using the quorum model (as long as a majority of the managers are reachable to make decisions).
Overlay networking which allows containers on different hosts to talk to each other on their own container network. That can also involve IPSEC for security.
Mesh networking for published ports and a VIP for the service that doesn't change like container IP's do. The latter prevents problems from DNS caching. And the former has all nodes in the swarm publish the port and routes traffic to a container providing this service.
Rolling upgrades to avoid any downtime with replicated services.
Load balancing across multiple nodes when scaling up a service.
More details on swarm mode are available from docker's documentation.
The downside of swarm mode is that you are one layer removed from the containers when they run on a remote node. You can't run an exec command on a task to investigate a container, you need to do that on a container and be on the node it's currently using. Docker also removed some options from services like --volumes-from which don't apply when containers may be running on different machines.
If you think you may grow beyond running containers on a single node, need to communicate between the containers on different nodes, or simply want the orchestration features like rolling upgrades, then I would recommend swarm mode. I'd only manage containers directly on the hosts if you have a specific requirement that prevents swarm mode from being an option. And you can always do both, manage some containers directly and others as a service or stack inside of swarm, on the same nodes.
I'm trying to figure out whether Docker Swarm or Kubernetes are a good choice for my use case.
Basically, I want to build a small cluster of forward proxies (via squid, nginx or a custom nodejs script), and be able to deploy/start/stop/purge them all together.
I should be able to access the proxy cluster via a single IP address, manager should be able to load-balance the request to a node, and each proxy node must use a unique outgoing IP address.
I'm wondering:
Are Docker Swarm and/or Kubernetes the right way to go about it?
If so, should I set-up Docker Swarm and/or Kubernetes and its worker nodes (running the proxy) on a single dedicated server or separate virtual servers?
Is it also possible for all the cluster nodes to share a file system storage for caching, common config etc.
Any other tips to get this working.
Thanks!
Docker running in swarm mode should work well for this
Run docker on a single dedicated server; I see no need for virtual servers. You could also run the swarm across multiple dedicated servers.
https://docs.docker.com/engine/swarm/secrets/ work well for some settings and configurations. If you require significant storage, simply add a database service to your cluster
Docker swarm mode fits your requirements quite well; requests are automatically balanced across your swarm and each service instance can be configured to have a unique address. You should check out the swarm mode tutorial: https://docs.docker.com/engine/swarm/swarm-tutorial/