Is it best practice to daemonize a process within docker? - docker

Many best practice guides emphasize making your process a daemon and having something watch it to restart in case of failure. This made sense for a while. A specific example can be sidekiq.
bundle exec sidekiq -d
However, with Docker as I build I've found myself simply executing the command, if the process stops or exits abruptly the entire docker container poofs and a new one is automatically spun up - basically the entire point of daemonizing a process and having something watch it (All STDOUT is sent to CloudWatch / Elasticsearch for monitoring).
I feel like this also tends to re-enforce the idea of a single process in a docker container, which if you daemonize would tend to in my opinion encourage a violation of that general standard.
Is there any best practice documentation on this even if you're running only a single process within the container?

You don't daemonize a process inside a container.
The -d is usually seen in the docker run -d command, using a detached (not daemonized) mode, where the the docker container would run in the background completely detached from your current shell.
For running multiple processes in a container, the background one would be a supervisor.
See "Use of Supervisor in docker" (or the more recent docker --init).

Some relevent 12 Factor app recommendations
An app is executed in the execution environment as one or more processes
Concurrency is implemented by running additional processes (rather than threads)
Website:
https://12factor.net/
Docker was open sourced by a PAAS operator (dotCloud) so it's entirely possible the authors were influenced by this architectural recommendation. Would explain why Docker is designed to normally run a single process.
The thing to remember here is that a Docker container is not a virtual machine, although it's entirely possible to make it quack like one. In practice a docker container is a jailed process running on the host server. Container orchestration engines like Kubernetes (Mesos, Docker Swarm mode) have features that will ensure containers stay running, replacing them should the need arise.
Remember my mention of duck vocalization? :-) If you want your container to run multiple processes then it's possible to run a supervisor process that keeps everything healthy and running inside (A container dies when all processes stop)
https://docs.docker.com/engine/admin/using_supervisord/
The ultimate expression of this VM envy would be LXD from Ubuntu, here an entire set of VM services get bootstrapped within LXC containers
https://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/lxd
In conclusion is it a best practice? I think there is no clear answer. Personally I'd say no for two reasons:
I'm fixated on deploying 12 factor compliant applications, so married to the single process model
If I need to run two processes on the same set of data, then in Kubernetes I can run containers within the same POD... Means Kubernetes manages the processes (running as separate containers with a common data volume).
Clearly my reasons are implementation specific.

There are multiple run supervisors that can help you take a foreground process (or multiple ones) run them monitored and restart them on failure (or exit the container).
one is runit (http://smarden.org/runit/), which I have not used myself.
my choice is S6 (http://skarnet.org/software/s6/). someone already built a container envelope for it, named S6-overlay (https://github.com/just-containers/s6-overlay) which is what I usually use if/when I need to have a user-space process run as daemon. it also has facets to do prep work on container start, change permissions and more, in runtime.

tl;dr: I can't find a best practices document that relates directly to this for docker, but I agree with you.
The only best "Best Practices" for docker I could find was at dockers own site, which states that containers should be one process. In my mind, that means foregrounded processes as well. So basically, I've drawn the same conclusion as you. (You've probably read that too, but this is for anyone else reading this).
Honestly, I think we are still in (relatively) new territory with best practices for docker. Anecdotally, it has been a best practice in the organizations I've worked with. The number of times I've felt more satisfied with a foregrounded process has been significantly greater then the times I've said to myself "Boy, I sure wish I backgrounded that one." In fact, I don't think I've ever said that.
The only exception I can think of is when you are trying to evaluate software and need a quick and dirty way to ship infrastructure off to someone. EG: "Hey, there is this new thing called LAMP stacks I just heard of, here is a docker container that has all the components for you to play around with". Again, though, that's an outlier and I would shudder if something like that ever made it to production or even any sort of serious development environment.
Additionally, it certainly forces a micro-architecture style, which I think is ultimately a good thing.

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Architectural question about user-controlled Docker instances

I got a website in Laravel where you can click on a button which sends a message to a Python daemon which is isolated in Docker. This works for an easy MVP to prove a concept, but it's not viable in production because a user would most likely want to pause, resume and stop that process as well because that service is designed to never stop otherwise considering it's a scanner which is looped.
I have thought about a couple of solutions for this, such as fixing it in the software layer but that would add complexity to the program. I have googled Docker and I have found that it is actually possible to do what I want to do with Docker itself with the commands pause, unpause, run and kill.
It would be optimal if I had a service which would interact with the Docker instances with the criteria of above and would be able to take commands from HTTP. Is Docker Swarm the right solution for this problem or is there an easier way?
There are both significant security and complexity concerns to using Docker this way and I would not recommend it.
The core rule of Docker security has always been, if you can run any docker command, then you can easily take over the entire host. (You cannot prevent someone from docker run a container, as container-root, bind-mounting any part of the host filesystem; so they can reset host-root's password in the /etc/shadow file to something they know, allow remote-root ssh access, and reboot the host, as one example.) I'd be extremely careful about connecting this ability to my web tier. Strongly coupling your application to Docker will also make it more difficult to develop and test.
Instead of launching a process per crawling job, a better approach might be to set up some sort of job queue (perhaps RabbitMQ), and have a multi-user worker that pulls jobs from the queue to do work. You could have a queue per user, and a separate control queue that receives the stop/start/cancel messages.
If you do this:
You can run your whole application without needing Docker: you need the front-end, the message queue system, and a worker, but these can all run on your local development system
If you need more crawlers, you can launch more workers (works well with Kubernetes deployments)
If you're generating too many crawl requests, you can launch fewer workers
If a worker dies unexpectedly, you can just restart it, and its jobs will still be in the queue
Nothing needs to keep track of which process or container belongs to a specific end user

when to run or start a docker container

As far as I understood, 'docker create' creates a new container from an image, 'docker start' starts the container (conditions apply so the container doesn't stop again immediately) and 'docker run' does both (with some differences in the details, but let's ignore them for now).
What I don't understand is when to use which. Let me explain:
For a normal executable, I run it by starting a new process. When the process dies, it is gone, and I start the executable again by creating a new process. There is no other way.
Some executables become daemons and keep running, so now there are three ways: Interact with a running daemon, start a second one, or stop and restart. With very few exceptions, running a second instance of the daemon is not useful, and you'd usually interact with the running instance, restarting it only when it locks up or to change its configuration. So again, it is clear to me how to use such a program.
For docker applications, things are not as clear to me. Of course, we have daemons and non-daemons there too, but for both of them, it is not clear to me whether I should use them by creating a new container or restarting an existing container. For daemons, there is the added distinction of starting a non-running daemon and restarting a running daemon, each of which can be done with the existing or a new container. On top of that, there is a third class of applications besides fire-and-forget and daemons, namely VM-like containers that just have a file system and a shell, and contain multiple programs to run.
As far as my knowledge goes, all this is especially relevant when the application stores run-time data on a file system that is private to the container, so creating a second container would create a second file system independent of the first one (with important files possibly spread across those file systems).
Of those docker-based applications I have used, none seems to have described this in its manual, so it seems that there are best practices on when to create or re-use containers, but then I could not find anything about that on the internet either. I could only find sites that explain the mechanics of those commands, but no best practices.
When should I create a new container, and when should I restart an existing one? If "it depends", how do you find out?

Is it recommended to run systemd inside docker container?

I am planning to use 'systemd' inside the container. Based on the articles I have read, it is preferable to limit only one process per container.
But if I configure 'systemd' inside the container, I will end up running many processes.
It would be great to understand the pros and cons of using systemd inside the container before I take any decision.
I'd advise you to avoid systemd in a container if at all possible.
Systemd mounts filesystems, controls several kernel parameters, has its own internal system for capturing process output, configures system swap space, configures huge pages and POSIX message queues, starts an inter-process message bus, starts per-terminal login prompts, and manages a swath of system services. Many of these are things Docker does for you; others are system-level controls that Docker by default prevents (for good reason).
Usually you want a container to do one thing, which occasionally requires multiple coordinating processes, but you usually don't want it to do any of the things systemd does beyond provide the process manager. Since systemd changes so many host-level parameters you often need to run it as --privileged which breaks the Docker isolation, which is usually a bad idea.
As you say in the question, running one "piece" per container is usually considered best. If you can't do this then a light-weight process manager like supervisord that does the very minimum an init process is required to is a better match, both for the Docker and Unix philosophies.
s6 became a somewhat popular init for containers when you need more than one process. And yes, it's not "one process per container", it's "one thing per container". Running a website e.g. is still one thing but it's usually more than one process.
You should think it more to be a question which init system you like to use.
One may use the old /sbin/init or the systemd-daemon running as PID-1 in a container. Any command like "docker stop" will talk to PID-1 only. If you do only have one java application in a container then it is recommended to run that process directly as PID-1 of the container.
Running systemd is mostly not required - if you have multiple services in a container or if some wrapper script uses 'systemctl' then you may still want to use activate it. But the latter use cases would also be covered by docker-systemctl-replacement.

Should I use separate Docker containers for my web app?

Do I need use separate Docker container for my complex web application or I can put all required services in one container?
Could anyone explain me why I should divide my app to many containers (for example php-fpm container, mysql container, mongo container) when I have ability to install and launch all stuff in one container?
Something to think about when working with Docker is how it works inside. Docker replaces your PID 1 with the command you specify in the CMD (and ENTRYPOINT, which is slightly more complex) directive in your Dockerfile. PID 1 is normally where your init system lives (sysvinit, runit, systemd, whatever). Your container lives and dies by whatever process is started there. When the process dies, your container dies. Stdout and stderr for that process in the container is what you are given on the host machine when you type docker logs myContainer. Incidentally, this is why you need to jump through hoops to start services and run cronjobs (things normally done by your init system). This is very important in understanding the motivation for doing things a certain way.
Now, you can do whatever you want. There are many opinions about the "right" way to do this, but you can throw all that away and do what you want. So you COULD figure out how to run all of those services in one container. But now that you know how docker replaces PID 1 with whatever command you specify in CMD (and ENTRYPOINT) in your Dockerfiles, you might think it prudent to try and keep your apps running each in their own containers, and let them work with each other via container linking. (Update -- 27 April 2017: Container linking has been deprecated in favor of regular ole container networking, which is much more robust, the idea being that you simply join your separate application containers to the same network so they can talk to one another).
If you want a little help deciding, I can tell you from my own experience that it ends up being much cleaner and easier to maintain when you separate your apps into individual containers and then link them together. Just now I am building a Wordpress installation from HHVM, and I am installing Nginx and HHVM/php-fpm with the Wordpress installation in one container, and the MariaDB stuff in another container. In the future, this will let me drop in a replacement Wordpress installation directly in front of my MariaDB data with almost no hassle. It is worth it to containerize per app. Good luck!
When you divide your web application to many containers, you don't need to restart all the services when you deploy your application. Like traditionally you don't restart your mysql server when you update your web layer.
Also if you want to scale your application, it is easier if your application is divided separate containers. Then you can just scale those parts of your application that are needed to solve your bottlenecks.
Some will tell you that you should run only 1 process per container. Others will say 1 application per container. Those advices are based on principles of microservices.
I don't believe microservices is the right solution for all cases, so I would not follow those advices blindly just for that reason. If it makes sense to have multiples processes in one container for your case, then do so. (See Supervisor and Phusion baseimage for that matter)
But there is also another reason to separate containers: In most cases, it is less work for you to do.
On the Docker Hub, there are plenty of ready to use Docker images. Just pull the ones you need.
What's remaining for you to do is then:
read the doc for those docker images (what environnement variable to set, etc)
create a docker-compose.yml file to ease operating those containers
It is probably better to have your webapp in a single container and your supporting services like databases etc. in a separate containers. By doing this if you need to do rolling updates or restarts you can keep your database online while your application nodes are doing individual restarts so you wont experience downtime. If you have caching with something like Redis etc this is also useful for the same reason. It will also allow you to more easily add nodes to scale in a loosely coupled fashion. It will also allow you to manage the containers in a manner more suitable to a specific purpose. For the type of application you are describing I see very few arguments for running all services on a single container.
It depends on the vision and road map you have for your application. Putting all components of an application in one tier in this case docker container is like putting all eggs in one basket.
Whenever your application would require security, performance related issues then separating those three components in their own containers would be an ideal solution. It's needless to mention that this division of labor across containers would come at some cost and which would be related to wiring up those containers together for communication and security etc.

Docker - one process per container?

I sometimes use Docker for my development work. When I do, I usually work on an out-of-the-box LAMP image from tutum.
My question is: Doesn't it defeat the purpose to work with Docker if it runs multiple processes in one container? (like the container started off Tutum's LAMP image) Isn't the whole idea of Docker to separate each process into a separate container?
While it is generally a good rule of thumb to separate processes into separate containers, that's not the main benefit/purpose of docker. The benefit of docker is immutability. And if throwing two processes into a single container makes for cleaner logic then go for it. Though in this case, I would definitely consider at least stripping out the DB into its own container, and talk to it through a docker link. The database shouldn't have to go down every time you rebuild your image.
Generally sometimes it is neccessary or more useful to use one container for more than one process like in this situation.
Such situation happens when processes are used together to fulfill its task. I can imagine for example situation when somebody want to add logging to the web application by using ELK (Elasticsearch, Logstash, Kibana). Those things run together and can have supervisor for monitoring processes inside one container.
But for most cases it is better to use one process per container. What is more docker command should start process itself, for example running java aplication by
/usr/bin/java -jar application.jar
apart from running external script:
./launchApplication.sh
See discussion on http://www.reddit.com/r/docker/comments/2t1lzp/docker_and_the_pid_1_zombie_reaping_problem/ where the problem is concerned.

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