I have two entities which I would like to be able to start a communication:
Hardware Device Using Atmel ATSAMS70 and WINC1500 Wifi Module
HTML 5 App
The idea to have a HTML 5 app is to be able to communicate easily with most of the commercial devices like: Windows computers, Android Phones, Mac OSX computer and iOS devices. Apart from that, I would avoid working with native code at all.
Currently, they can talk with each other using WebSockets but somehow the IP address of the custom board has to be known from HTML 5 to initiate the communication.
In order to do this, I can think of 3 options:
Using WebRTC I can get the local IP address of the browser and then I could do a scan of the local devices considering a 255.255.255.0 network mask.
Have an external server that the hardware device can send its local address which will be later retrieved by HTML 5.
Using Bonjour or some sort of device discovery service between the board and HTML5.
I could not find a way to achieve #3 but #2 seems feasible to me. #1 is what I am doing now, but WebRTC is currently not supported on iOS.
So, is there any other better possibility to achieve this communication?
You don't mention how the WINC1500 unit is being connected to the network but presumably this is in STA mode (acting as a wifi station rather than becoming a software access point or part of an ad-hoc network) and is being provided with its IP details through an existing access point?
Ordinarily I'd suggest that once connected, the device ought to start indicating its availability on the network via a regular UDP broadcast on a specific port but my (admittedly limited) understanding of WebSockets it is that it creates TCP connections. The only implementation of Bonjour that I've seen uses UDP messaging too, that may be why you've had trouble with your third approach.
Your second approach seems more likely to work well. A server at a known (or discoverable) IP on the local network which allows the Atmel device to register itself (and its IP address) and also allows other applications (your HTML 5 WebSockets applications) to request that connection information to allow them to create the WebSocket TCP connections they need.
I suppose that doesn't really answer your question as to "Is there a better way?", other than to say "Not that I can think of, your second approach looks good to me...". Sorry! Sounds like a very interesting project, overall,
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I recently have not much experiance about working with a raspberry.
I need to send real-time data from my Raspberry Pi 2 Model B to an iPhone. The Raspberry will get the internet connection via UMTS stick.
I thought about a websocket but I didn't find any information what websocket would be the best and how to config it.
So is there anyone who already has a solution about it?
Thank you!
WebSocket requires a WebSocket (WS) server or a webserver that understands the WebSocket protocol as defined by the IETF. So for a RPi to talk directly to your iPhone, one of the devices has to have a WS server... which is not likely.
There are a couple of possible alternatives (there are certainly others). You could send data from the RPi to an external server that hosts a WS-capable server which then forwards that data to your iPhone, either thru a native app or a web browser. The data is logically transmitted between the two devices, but physically sent using an external service to coordinate the two. Visit http://goo.gl/Utg0dU to see data exchanged between an RPi and an iPhone using web messaging (src available).
Another possible alternative is to use Bluetooth to send data directly from the RPi to the iPhone. Being a Java dude, I know you can run a JVM on the RPI and I know there's a Java bluetooth API, and obviously the iPhone supports bluetooth, so its definitely do-able with a JVM. A quick Google shows plenty of support for bluetooth on the RPi with other languages. So you're good with this approach too.
If the Raspberry Pi is connected to the Internet with a public IP Address (I guess it doesn't since it uses UMTS) then you can setup a TCP Listener where the iPhone will connect to. If it doesn't and you can do Port Forwarding (I guess you can't) then you can forward the TCP port to the Raspberry Pi. The above examples also work with an HTTP server.
If the iPhone is near the Raspberry Pi and you're writing an app for the iPhone you can use a Bluetooth transceiver on the Pi to communicate.
If you can't do any of this you may need a third server with a public IP where both devices will connect to and the server will relay all connections from one device to the other.
In general, it would help if you could describe a little bit better what you want to achieve and the network topology involved so we can provide more specific answers.
Is there any way to communicate between two devices or application with Browser of other devices without having Server in the middle?
If I explain, actually I want to share data between iPhone application and Browser of Desktop, I tried HTTPServer, & played with WebSocket too, but in these case this server plays an important role in between. So If somehow I exchange data between two peers like IP Address, Port number, Then Is it possible to communicate between those two devices using Wi-fi channel without having Server in Middle?
The Way, Right now I have implemented.
The way, I am looking for.
I recently came across http://www.freedomjs.org/ which is suppose to provide p2p functionality in the browser.
I'm trying to find out what AWDL is. On iOS, if you use Apple's peer-to-peer networking over BlueTooth, it seems Apple creates a new Network Interface "awdl0" to implement (I guess) IP-over-BT.
But I can't find any docs on this tech, or this interface, how it behaves, things we must / must not do with it, etc. Google comes up blank :(.
In particular, I believe it means "established a BT connection, and I'm running an IP bridge over the top, and you can use this to communicate peer-to-peer". Apple's own system libraries have bugs where this bridge isn't setup quickly enough, and if you send data too soon, it appears to get dropped by the OS. So ... if I can query this awdl0, I hope to check "are you ready yet?" and delay P2P messages until the OS is happy.
UPDATE
More info: I can get pairs of iOS devices to create awdl0 connections to each other - but they never get created to OS X machines, whether BT and Bonjour are on or not, whether the devices are paired or not.
Some background:
In iOS5, Apple permanently disabled the Bluetooth parts of Bonjour/Peer-to-peer networking, and published a technote instructing everyone to use DNS-SD if they wanted to keep using Bluetooth as a transport between iOS devices. This is fine, but it means you must use DNS-SD if you want high-performance BT, and you want it reliable.
(GameKit sometimes works fine, but we often see terrible performance in real-world scenarios, e.g. crowded public places - which goes away if you use DNS-SD)
DNS-SD protocol doesn't include info to tell you what the hardware is using. But it does tell you the Network Interfaces (which is how I know we're running on awdl0)
DNS-SD is awesome, and we have high-speed, low latency connections peer-to-peer between iOS devices - all the stuff that GameKit promises but often fails to deliver whenever there's more than a few wifi/BT devices in range.
AWDL recently caught a lot of attention when it caused Wi-Fi issues in iOS 8 and OS X Yosemite devices.
What is AWDL?
AWDL (Apple Wireless Direct Link) is a low latency/high speed WiFi peer-to peer-connection Apple uses for everywhere you’d expect: AirDrop, GameKit (which also uses Bluetooth), AirPlay, and perhaps elsewhere. It works using its own dedicated network interface, typically “awdl0".
While some services, like Instant HotSpot, Bluetooth Tethering (of course), and GameKit advertise their services over Bluetooth SDP, Apple decided to advertise AirDrop over WiFi and inadvertently destroyed WiFi performance for millions of Yosemite and iOS 8 users.
How does AWDL work?
Since the iPhone 4, the iOS kernels have had multiple WiFi interfaces to 1 WiFi Broadcom hardware chip.
en0 — primary WiFi interface
ap1 — access point interface used for WiFi tethering
awdl0 — Apple Wireless Direct Link interface (since iOS 7?)
By having multiple interfaces, Apple is able to have your standard WiFi connection on en0, while still broadcasting, browsing, and resolving peer to peer connections on awdl0 (just not well).
You can find more info here and here.
I'd like to provide a more precise answer as to how the protocol works internally. I quote part of the abstract of this paper.
In short, each AWDL node announces a sequence of Availability Windows
(AWs) indicating its readiness to communicate with other AWDL nodes.
An elected master node synchronizes these sequences. Outside the AWs,
nodes can tune their Wi-Fi radio to a different channel to communicate
with an access point, or could turn it off to save energy.
From a user perspective, AWDL allows a device remain connected to an infrastructure-based Wi-Fi network and communicate with AWDL peers "at the same time" by quickly hopping between the channels of the two networks (AWDL uses fixed social channels 6, 44, and 149). In contrast to the previous answer, we found that current versions of AWDL work fairly well and channel hopping only induces a small overhead.
Disclaimer: I'm co-author of this paper and we retrieved this information by means of reverse engineering. If you are interested in the details, please read the paper and have a look at the Wireshark dissector (published soon).
Please tell me in detail why it is impossible to send the data between two phones over GSM? I can find almost no information about this problem.
There are 2 points here.
Firstly, GSM is a mobile voice telephony system - plain GSM doesn't do data connections.
GPRS and EDGE are add-ons to the GSM network that allow data to be sent.
There are other kinds of wireless phone networks that also use a SIM and allow data to be sent (UMTS, LTE).
Secondly, when you establish a data connection with a mobile phone and a phone network, you are establishing an IP connection between your phone/modem and a gateway server in the operator's network. The gateway server allows you access to the internet (together with the DNS server etc, obviously).
This is similar to a computer plugging in a LAN cable and connecting to their ISP. But you can also connect 2 computers with a crossover cable, and configure them to have an IP connection directly. So what you are asking is, why can't I do the same with 2 GSM phones? what is the equivalent of a wireless crossover cable?
The reason is because GSM has no protocol to connect phones to each other. It only defines a protocol for phones to connect to a network base station.
To transfer data between 2 phones, therefore, you need a different protocol, one which will work between 2 peers. Bluetooth is a common such protocol, but it only works over short distances.
If you want to connect 2 distant phones, you can do this via a third party, like a website, to which data can be uploaded into the cloud by the first phone and downloaded by the second phone.
Or, you could establish a connection at the IP level via the internet, e.g. if one mobile device was a web server (the last sentence is only theorising).
See also this related question
EDIT: 3GPP Release 12 includes direct Device to Device communications. At the time of writing, it's still very new, and not yet commercially available, so the answer above still holds. D2D is designed for emergency services, eg if the network is damaged by a disaster, they can still communicate directly. But 3GPP suggests that it will be commercially available as well. From 3GPP news
There are also commercial benefits of D2D, with new applications building on the physical proximity of users being trialed by operators.
2nd EDIT: Apple has created a feature called Multipeer Connectivity Framework, which uses a mixture of WiFi networks, peer-to-peer WiFi and Bluetooth to enable short distance connectivity between iPhones when there is no GSM network.
NFC is another peer-to-peer technology for communicating between 2 devices, that is supported by some phones. More information here.
I have got a couple of phones and another couple of PC's connected to a Wifi access point and need to send and receive messages between either of these, I mean anyone can send a message to anyone and receive a message from anyone.
I am willing to write apps on the phones(Symbian OS, S60 platform) or PC(Windows), but what I can't understand is how do I set up a client or server, since any one of these devices could be a client or server.
If I use sockets do I have to script for ServerSockets and also Sockets on each of these devices? Can I use the HTTP protocol?
Alternatively any standard protocol that I could use to implement this?
You would broadcast UDP packets which would arrive at every device on the Wifi network. You would have to invent your own protocol to decide on the identity of each device, since you wouldn't be able to easily infer the IP addresses of your network devices. Without writing an election algorithm you would find it difficult to use a client/server architecture, so just use point-to-point (P2P).
Google for UDP broadcasts and read the relevant RFCs at ietf.org.
It seems like you're looking for pretty typical peer-to-peer communication over IP. I suppose other requirements will dictate which transport you use (HTTP, raw sockets, etc), but yes: Each node will be both a client and a server. You could possibly use MDNS (http://www.multicastdns.org/) to help the nodes find eachother in an ad-hoc manner.