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I've been thinking of rolling my own code for enabling my Delphi application to update seamlessly as I'll be going for "release often, release early" mentality furthermore. There are various Delphi solutions (both freeware and paid) out there and I'd like to ask if you've been using any of them or simply went on with your own solutions in this area. Any comments on the auto-update topic are welcome.
What ever scheme you use, it may be handy to know that you can actually rename a running .exe file. So rename file, copy in new file works nice. And the next time someone launch the program they will launch a the new version. This is ofcourse very handy in enviroment where many users run the same .exe file, like in citrix/terminal server/network share cases.
Years ago I wrote a simple tool which is started instead of the real program, checks for updates, loads and installs them (if any are available), and finally starts the real application.
There are however problems with that approach if your program works in a properly administered environment, where users normally don't have write access to the program directories. You can no longer simply update your own program in such environments. That's why a lot of programs these days come with their own updater tool, which can be installed to run with elevated permissions, so that program updates can be applied even though only standard users do ever log on to the system.
You have to decide whether your target audience can be assumed to run on power user or administrator accounts, or whether you will have to deal with above-mentioned problems. With Vista things got considerably harder already.
With all these problems (net access over proxies, missing write permissions for installation directories, the need to update files that the updater itself is using - just to name a few) I wouldn't try again to code this on my own. Much better to check if any one of the available solutions does all you need it to.
I use the Synapse routines GetHTTP to return a specific resource, and if found then check against the local system to see if an update is required. If so then the resource tells me what page to go to launch and I throw the URL into shell execute so the users
preferred browser is displayed.
Most of the time the download is a setup program created by InnoSetup which updates the users system and database to the latest version. When a new "paid" upgrade is needed, I then send the user to a "purchase upgrade" form. My web resources are ASP pages, so I can redirect to a different resource based on the customers version number.
For the main application (our application has a server piece, and a client piece) I have a loader which will check the server to see if the version of the client file on the server is different than the version on the client...if so, it prompts the user if the user wants to update/revert. We chose to prompt the user as sometimes an accidental bug might make it into the system and the user has to downgrade/upgrade only specific machines to help troubleshoot. I maintain a database record with the minimum version required which is updated via the database patch, so if a version must be retired then the record is updated accordingly.
I created my own solution too based on Indy for downloading and http://sourceforge.net/projects/makeupdate/ for file patching.
Before that I have used and tried several commercial tools, but no one was doing exactly what I needed.
I use TmxWebUpdate. It's free, simple and gives you good control over the process. I actually own TMS Component Pack with TWebUpdate but never really found a good reason to switch.
Edit: Link updated
We rolled our own as well. Its really not too difficult.
Our process goes something like:
When the main app is launched, it checks (using funcs from the synapse library) if there's an update available (assuming its configured to check, of course).
If so, it notifies the user and askes if they want to update.
If they do, it launches an updater .exe, and closes the main app.
The updater exe downloads the new files based on the contents of a text file it retrieves, keepiing the files in memory.
When the updater is done downloading everything correctly, it then saves the downloaded files to disk, backing up any files it replaces. This way if the download gets interupted, you dont end up with half the files installed.
Finally, it launches the main app again, and closes itself.
The trick w/ Vista is that you need to have an entry in the updater program's manifest to force it to run with administrator rights.
Normally we use the third party tool. But in some situations it was not usable so I created an own solution, which was pretty standard:
Get xml (or any other format) with update info.
If newer files are published, download and install them.
I use TWebUpdate . It works ok and has a ton of interesting options, but documentation isn't so great and I did bump into a few problems - which is why I download a full installer, instead of just the files...
I will be keeping an eye on this question, btw...
We use our own solution which follows these steps:
Application connects to http resource and downloads info file (ini text file) to memory, checks version number of newest release.
If newer version available, app downloads compressed binary package to exe location.
When download is finished, user is asked to restart application.
Upon start, application checks for presence of update package
App extracts package contents (usually a new app exe, but additional resources possible as well, e.g. updated language files etc.) - for each file it renames the current/old file to a temp name first, then extracts the new file. If the process fails at any point, the temp files are restored.
When finished, app executes new exe and closes itself.
No additional updater needed, the app exe can handle it all by itself.
For the compressed package we use our own update builder.
The package contains an index of files with a file hash, destination folder (relative path to main exe) and the compressed files.
During update we compare the stored hash with the extracted file to detect corupted files.
With Vista I see two solutions to enable Standard User Accounts to actually update the applications files:
Configure your setup to change permissions of the programs installation directory. This way files in "C:\Program Files (x86)\Your Company\You App" can be modified on Accounts with limited rights.
Example code for InnoSetup would be:
[Dirs]
Name: "{app}"; Permissions: users-modify
Install files that you plan to update to the ProgramData folder instead of the user defined directory and use this directory as an override folder. If files exist in ProgramData, use those, else check in install dir.
InnoSetup code:
[Files]
Source: "C:\Your Project\YourApp.exe"; DestDir: "{commonappdata}\Company Name\App Name\";
Same as "stg" and "GuyWithDogs", I'm using TWebUpdate from TMS. Although the documentation isn't so great, Its not so difficult to learnt.
With TWebUpdate, you have some options what the protocol you use, it could be done via HTTP, FTP or network access.
For communication layer, TWebUpdate uses WinInet. In some machines, the windows / IE URL cache can be frustating, so I've added a routine to clear the auto-update server address from cache first to ensure the information gathered from the server is up-to-date.
I have made a simple installer application in Delphi, nothing fancy. Basically I include files into the Exe, and then extract them to a user specified path.
I stumbled across a problem however, and I have noticed this works with ANY Windows Executable, it does not matter if it is an installer or not.
If an Exe is named, or contains the following words in the filename, "Setup", "Build", "Install" and maybe others, then.. whenever the Application is run and closed, Windows pops up a Product Compatibility Assistant dialog, saying the Application may not have installed correctly.
This is a problem, as even though the Files from my installer have actually extracted, and in my eyes the installer has done its job, Windows is complaining about it.
The only idea I have regarding this, is that Windows must check the filename of the Applications when executed, and in this case has identified it as an Installer. Windows must of then set a flag or something on the System, my Installer must then update this flag to say that the installation was a success?
Windows does not complain about this when debugging from the IDE, so it cannot be code related, it must be the OS - this only happens when launching the Application from Windows, not Delphi.
You can try this easily, either create an Application or rename one as Setup.exe, Run it and then close it - wait a few seconds and the Product Compatibility Assistant Dialog will show.
I don't know where to start investigating how to stop this dialog, or where a setting may be to tell Windows the Installer was completed correctly.
Appreciate your thoughts and solutions thanks.
If I recall correctly, this happens when your install app does not include an application manifest. When UAC was introduced, MS introduced a heuristic detection for installers and shows the UAC elevation dialog. The heuristic checks for names like setup.exe, install.exe. The simple solution is to include an application manifest. If it is an installer you probably want to use the requireAdministrator setting.
The feature is known as Installer Detection and is discussed here.
For what it is worth, I would always build an installer with a dedicated install tool like InnoSetup for example.
As David pointed out, MS uses some fuzzy logic to try to guess if the program is an installer. I wouldn't rely on this, as this is only for supporting legacy installer applications.
All new applications should have a manifest file, specifying whether it requires elevated privileges.
If an application has a manifest file that includes the requestedExecutionLevel directive, then Windows does not attempt Installer Detection.
Any program that is detected as an installer program but does not add a registry entry to the Add Remove Programs section of the registry (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall) will get the message "This program might not have installed correctly".
i can use the copyfile(); function to copy a file to c:/windows/system32 on windows xp but then i use the function on windows 7 i cant copy it:o the file wont come there....
i had the same problem with writing and reading registery but fixed it by declaring a WOW key $0100 ...
i think the problem is uac but not sure.. could somebody explain me that:D?
That is indeed because of UAC. It is called File/Folder or Registry Virtualization. It is done for legacy applications who don't yet respect the new UAC rules (e.g. not writing in system folders unless you are an administrator).
By creating a manifest file you switch off this virtualization. See here. This can be a seperate file or be embedded into the exe. Newer Delphi versions already generate executables containing such a manifest and have requestedExecutionLevel set to asInvoker. This normally does not allow writing in those locations, unless users specifically run your program as an administrator. Setting it to requireAdministrator does allow writing in those locations, but also means users have to confirm they want to run your program as an administrator.
It's indeed UAC that's preventing you from copying files to the system32 folder. You have to ask yourself why you want to copy files there. A normal application should never copy files to the system32 folder.
Sometimes during install you might want to copy dll's there, but even that is legacy behaviour. Should you really want to copy files there, you should request Elevation at the start of the application.
Why are you copying files there? It should be treatead as the OS private directory. Unless you're installing a driver or the like, you should never write there. In XP you can only because you're running with Administrator privileges, try to use a plain user and you can't as well (since at least 2000, if not in NT already), but it will give you an error because it won't redirect the write. Unless you have a truly good reason to write there, I'd suggest to redesign your application to write in the proper place, instead of trying to find a way to write there. Anyway, it will fail anytime the user don't have the privileges and can't perform an elevation.
After many months of postponing it, this week, I finally started using a new Windows 7 Professional PC for actual development (which is 90% still done in Delphi 7 with some of these programs still using the Borland IDAPI to access Paradox files). The previous development pc was still an XP-one.
Every thing works except for one thing: somehow the settings of the IDAPI and BdeAdmin configuration files are messed up or they are read/written in different locations. To be more precise, it looks like two configuration files are active.
It must have something to do with rights or settings being read/written in the wrong folder or registry setting, but after searching for it for a couple of hours, I give up.
Anyone had any problems with this, before ? And if so, hopefully, has any one solved this problem ?
Thx for any thoughts/solutions ...
My guess is it has something to do with the fact that Vista and Windows 7 don't allow programs to change files under the C:\Program Files folder. They create a copy of those changed files in a virtual store, the process is known as virtualization. The copies end up in the hidden appdata folder of the user account and can be found in the Local\VirtualStore\Program Files folder. The structure in that folder reflects the one in the actual Program Files folder.
Programs that access their files in the Program Files folder using a "hardcoded" path, will always get the original - unchanged - file contents.
Solution: running the apps in a virtual XP system or upgrading the apps is probably your best bet.
You could try to run the apps elevated. That is: right click them and choose Run as Administrator. Please note that it isn't enough to be logged in as an administrator. Even administrators run all processes unelevated by default. Instead of right-clicking, you can also create a shortcut and set the Run as administrator for the shortcut - the checkbox for this is on the compatibility tab of the properties dialog. No guarantees though that this will alleviate the problem.
Since IIRC D7 setup allows you to configure paths in multiple ways, maybe simply do a reinstall outside "program files"?
Afaik this solves several vista/w7 problems.
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I've been thinking of rolling my own code for enabling my Delphi application to update seamlessly as I'll be going for "release often, release early" mentality furthermore. There are various Delphi solutions (both freeware and paid) out there and I'd like to ask if you've been using any of them or simply went on with your own solutions in this area. Any comments on the auto-update topic are welcome.
What ever scheme you use, it may be handy to know that you can actually rename a running .exe file. So rename file, copy in new file works nice. And the next time someone launch the program they will launch a the new version. This is ofcourse very handy in enviroment where many users run the same .exe file, like in citrix/terminal server/network share cases.
Years ago I wrote a simple tool which is started instead of the real program, checks for updates, loads and installs them (if any are available), and finally starts the real application.
There are however problems with that approach if your program works in a properly administered environment, where users normally don't have write access to the program directories. You can no longer simply update your own program in such environments. That's why a lot of programs these days come with their own updater tool, which can be installed to run with elevated permissions, so that program updates can be applied even though only standard users do ever log on to the system.
You have to decide whether your target audience can be assumed to run on power user or administrator accounts, or whether you will have to deal with above-mentioned problems. With Vista things got considerably harder already.
With all these problems (net access over proxies, missing write permissions for installation directories, the need to update files that the updater itself is using - just to name a few) I wouldn't try again to code this on my own. Much better to check if any one of the available solutions does all you need it to.
I use the Synapse routines GetHTTP to return a specific resource, and if found then check against the local system to see if an update is required. If so then the resource tells me what page to go to launch and I throw the URL into shell execute so the users
preferred browser is displayed.
Most of the time the download is a setup program created by InnoSetup which updates the users system and database to the latest version. When a new "paid" upgrade is needed, I then send the user to a "purchase upgrade" form. My web resources are ASP pages, so I can redirect to a different resource based on the customers version number.
For the main application (our application has a server piece, and a client piece) I have a loader which will check the server to see if the version of the client file on the server is different than the version on the client...if so, it prompts the user if the user wants to update/revert. We chose to prompt the user as sometimes an accidental bug might make it into the system and the user has to downgrade/upgrade only specific machines to help troubleshoot. I maintain a database record with the minimum version required which is updated via the database patch, so if a version must be retired then the record is updated accordingly.
I created my own solution too based on Indy for downloading and http://sourceforge.net/projects/makeupdate/ for file patching.
Before that I have used and tried several commercial tools, but no one was doing exactly what I needed.
I use TmxWebUpdate. It's free, simple and gives you good control over the process. I actually own TMS Component Pack with TWebUpdate but never really found a good reason to switch.
Edit: Link updated
We rolled our own as well. Its really not too difficult.
Our process goes something like:
When the main app is launched, it checks (using funcs from the synapse library) if there's an update available (assuming its configured to check, of course).
If so, it notifies the user and askes if they want to update.
If they do, it launches an updater .exe, and closes the main app.
The updater exe downloads the new files based on the contents of a text file it retrieves, keepiing the files in memory.
When the updater is done downloading everything correctly, it then saves the downloaded files to disk, backing up any files it replaces. This way if the download gets interupted, you dont end up with half the files installed.
Finally, it launches the main app again, and closes itself.
The trick w/ Vista is that you need to have an entry in the updater program's manifest to force it to run with administrator rights.
Normally we use the third party tool. But in some situations it was not usable so I created an own solution, which was pretty standard:
Get xml (or any other format) with update info.
If newer files are published, download and install them.
I use TWebUpdate . It works ok and has a ton of interesting options, but documentation isn't so great and I did bump into a few problems - which is why I download a full installer, instead of just the files...
I will be keeping an eye on this question, btw...
We use our own solution which follows these steps:
Application connects to http resource and downloads info file (ini text file) to memory, checks version number of newest release.
If newer version available, app downloads compressed binary package to exe location.
When download is finished, user is asked to restart application.
Upon start, application checks for presence of update package
App extracts package contents (usually a new app exe, but additional resources possible as well, e.g. updated language files etc.) - for each file it renames the current/old file to a temp name first, then extracts the new file. If the process fails at any point, the temp files are restored.
When finished, app executes new exe and closes itself.
No additional updater needed, the app exe can handle it all by itself.
For the compressed package we use our own update builder.
The package contains an index of files with a file hash, destination folder (relative path to main exe) and the compressed files.
During update we compare the stored hash with the extracted file to detect corupted files.
With Vista I see two solutions to enable Standard User Accounts to actually update the applications files:
Configure your setup to change permissions of the programs installation directory. This way files in "C:\Program Files (x86)\Your Company\You App" can be modified on Accounts with limited rights.
Example code for InnoSetup would be:
[Dirs]
Name: "{app}"; Permissions: users-modify
Install files that you plan to update to the ProgramData folder instead of the user defined directory and use this directory as an override folder. If files exist in ProgramData, use those, else check in install dir.
InnoSetup code:
[Files]
Source: "C:\Your Project\YourApp.exe"; DestDir: "{commonappdata}\Company Name\App Name\";
Same as "stg" and "GuyWithDogs", I'm using TWebUpdate from TMS. Although the documentation isn't so great, Its not so difficult to learnt.
With TWebUpdate, you have some options what the protocol you use, it could be done via HTTP, FTP or network access.
For communication layer, TWebUpdate uses WinInet. In some machines, the windows / IE URL cache can be frustating, so I've added a routine to clear the auto-update server address from cache first to ensure the information gathered from the server is up-to-date.