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I am looking for some starting points integrating a Win32 Delphi application's data with a remote database for a web application.
Problem(s) this project intends to solve:
1) The desktop does not perform well over vpns. Users in remote office could use the web app instead.
2) Some companies prefer a web app to the desktop app
3) Mobile devices could hit the web app as a front end.
Issues I've identified:
Web application will run on a Unix based system, probably Linux while the desktop application uses NexusDB while the web application will likely be Postgres. Dissimilar platforms and databases.
Using Delphi it appears the Microsoft Sync Framework is not available for this project.
My first thought was to give the web app your standard REST API and have the desktop app hit the API as though it's a client every n-minutes from the local database server. Tons of issues I see with this already!
Richard, I have been down this path before and all I can say is DON'T DO IT! I use to work for a company that had a large Delphi Desktop Application (over 250 forms) running on DBISAM (very similar to what you have). Clients wanted a "Web" interface so people could remotely work and then have the web app and desktop app synch changes. Well, a few years later and the application was horrible - data issues and user workflow was terrible because managing the same data in two different places is a nightmare.
I would recommend moving your database to something like MySQL (Delphi and Web Client both hit) and use one database between the two interfaces. The reason the Delphi client is not working well over the VPN is because desktop databases like NexusDB and DBISAM copy way to much data over the pipe when it runs queries (pulls back all the data and then filters/orders, etc)- it not truly client / server like SQL Server or MySQL where all the heavy lifting is being done on the server and only the results come back. Of course, moving the Delphi app to DB like MySQL could eleviate speed issues all together - but you don't solve #2 and #3 with that.
Another option is to move the entire application to the web and only have 1 application to support. Of course, a good UI developer in a tool like Delphi can always make a superior user interface to a web app - especially in data-entry heavy applications - so that may not be an option for you.
I would be very weary of "synching data".
My 2 cents worth.
Mike
If you use a RESTful based ORM, you could have both for instance AJAX and Client Delphi applications calling the same Delphi server, using JSON as transmission format, HTTP/1.1 as remote connection layer, Delphi and Javascript objects to access the data.
For instance, if you type http://localhost:8080/root/SampleRecord in your browser, you'll receive something like:
[{"ID":1},{"ID":2},{"ID":3},{"ID":4}]
And if you ask for http://localhost:8080/root/SampleRecord/1 you'll get:
{"ID":1,"Time":"2010-02-08T11:07:09","Name":"AB","Question":"To be or not to be"}
This can be consumed by any AJAX application, if you know a bit about JavaScript.
And the same HTTP/1.1 RESTful requests (GET/POST/PUT/DELETE/LOCK/UNLOCK...) are already available in any Client HTTP/1.1 application. The framework implements the server using the very fast kernel-mode http.sys (faster than any other HTTP server on Windows), and fast HTTP API for the client. You can even use HTTPS to handle a secure connection.
IMHO, using such an ORM is better than using only a database connection, because:
It will follow more strictly the n-Tier principle: the business rules are written ONCE in the Delphi server, and you consume only services and RESTful operations with business objects;
It will use HTTP/1.1 for connection which is faster, more standard across the Internet than any direct database connection, and can be strongly secured via HTTPS;
JSON and RESTful over HTTP are de-facto standard for AJAX applications (even Microsoft uses it for WCF);
The data will be transmitted using JSON, which is a very nice format for multiple front-end;
The Stateless approach makes it very strong, even in unconnected mode;
Using a local small replication of the database (we encourage SQLite for this) allow you to have client access in unconnected mode (for Delphi client, or for HTML 5 clients).
I recommend you have one database, and two front ends (web UI that calls SOAP methods for its back end work, and a SOAP method call based rich client in Delphi, and a SOAP server tier that implements SOAP accessible methods which contains your business logic).
From what you're describing, you think replication will merely speed you up, but what it will do instead, is slow you down and cause you to have replication, coherence, and relational integrity problems that must be sorted out by hand (by you).
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Are there major disadvantages using the embedded Firebird 3 in a multi-user application server (Delphi Webbroker) instead of the full blown server install?
The application usually has very short transactions with low data volume.
As far as I am informed accessing one database file with multiple threads through the embedded server is not problematic but user security is not available. As the application server does the rights stuff I do not need Firebird security.
But will I loose performance or things like garbage collection?
Firebird Embedded provides all the features (except network access and authentication) that a normal Firebird server provides. However, because it is in-process, any problems that cause your application to crash, will take Firebird with it and vice versa.
Other possible downsides:
Garbage collection will - as far as I know - always use the 'cooperative' model (where the connection to find old record versions, is the one that cleans it up),
You can't use other tools to access your database remotely which may make administration harder,
You can't put your database on a separate server from your web application (think of security requirements).
Personally, I would only choose Firebird Embedded if the situation calls for it. In all other situations, I will use Firebird Server.
Please read before tagging as duplicate.
I'm creating a set of applications which rely on smart cards for authentication. Up to now, each application has controlled the smart card reader individually. In a few weeks, some of my customers will be using more than one application at the same time. So, I thought maybe it would be more practical to create a service application which controls the authentication process. I'd like my desktop applications to tell the service application they are interested in the authentication process, and the service application would then provide them with information about current user. This part is easy, using named pipes. The hard part is, how can the service tell the desktop applications that an event has occurred (UserLogIn, UserLogOut, PermissionsChanged, ... to name a few). So far I have two methods in mind. CallBack functions, and Messages. Does anyone have a better idea? I'm sure someone has.
You want do to IPC (Inter Process Communication) with Delphi.
There are many links that can help you, Cromis IPC is just one to give you an idea what you are after.
A similar SO question to yours is here.
If you want to go pure Windows API, then take a look at how OutputDebugString communications is implemented.
Several tools can listen to the mechanism and many apps can send information to it.
Search for DBWIN_DATA_READY and DbWin32 for more information on how the protocol for OutputDebugString works.
This and this are good reading.
When it gets into IPC, some tips:
Do not be tied on one protocol: for instance, if you implements named pipe communication, you would later perhaps need to run it over a network, or even over HTTP;
Do not reinvent the wheel, nor use proprietary messages, but standard formats (like XML / JSON / BSON);
Callbacks events are somewhat difficult to implement, since the common pattern could be to implement a server for each Desktop client, to receive notifications from the server.
My recommendation is not to use callbacks, but polling on a stateless architecture, on the Desktop applications. You open a communication channel with the server, then every second / half second (use a TTimer in your UI), you make a small request asking for what did change (you can put a revision number or a time stamp of your last retrieval). Therefore, you synchronize your desktop data with pending events. Asking for updates on an existing connection is very fast, and will just send one IP packet over the network back and forth, if nothing changed. It is a very small task, and won't slow down nor the client nor the server (if you use some in-memory cache).
On practice, with real application, such a stateless architecture is very responsive, from the end-user point of view, and is much more easy to deploy. You do not need to create a server on each desktop application, so you don't have to open firewall ports or such. Since HTTP is stateless, it is even Internet friendly.
If you want to develop services, you can use DataSnap, something like RemObjects or you can try our Open Source mORmot framework which is able to create interface-based services with light JSON messages over REST, either in-process, using GDI messages, named pipes or TCP/HTTP - for free, with unbeatable performance, build-in security, and from Delphi 6 up to XE2. For your event-based task, just using the Client-Server ORM available in mORMot could be enough: create a table/class storing the events (you can even define a round-robin in-memory storage - no need to use SQLite3 engine nor a DB here), then ask for all pending events since the last refresh. And the server can safely be a background service, or a normal application - some mORMot users even have the same executable able to be either a stand-alone application, a server service, an application server, or a UI client, just by changing the configuration.
Edit / announcement:
On the mORMot roadmap, we added a new upcoming feature, to easily implement one-way callbacks from the server.
That is, add transparent "push" mode to our Service Oriented Architecture framework.
Aim is to implement notification events triggered from the server side, very easily from Delphi code, via some interface definitions, even over a single HTTP connection - for instance, WCF does not allow this: it will need a dual binding, so will need to open a firewall port and such.
It will used for easy Event Collaboration, via a publish / subscribe pattern, and allow Event Sourcing. I will try to make it implement the two modes: polling and lock-and-wait. A direct answer to your question.
You can use a simple TCP socket connection (bidirectional) to allow asynchronous server to client messages on the same socket.
An example is the Indy TIdTelnetClient class, it uses a thread for incoming messages from the server.
You can build a similar text-based protocol and only need a Indy TCP server instance in the service, and one Indy Client instance in the application(s).
I'm a hobby programmer trying to build a client/server application suite, using Delphi XE.
I write stand-alone applications occasionally, for my personal use. The problem is I don't know ANYTHING when it comes to networking / multi-tier. I am willing to learn though.
I looked for ways to do this and DataSnap and IntraWeb jump out as the most likely candidates for the job. But, before I start using one or the other, I would like to know a few info I wasn't able to find on the web:
If I build an IW stand-alone app and deploy it on my site (as server) will I be able to connect to it/retrieve data with a client application? I need to do that within my Delphi written app, without using a browser and without using HTML (I know very little HTML and I'm not eager to learn). I know IntraWeb isn't meant for this, but will it work?
If I go with DataSnap and build a server app, will I be able to deploy it to my website? Or do I have to make a computer on the network the server?
In case anyone wants to know, I want to connect 5 computers(from different cities), to exchange information between them, if at all possible using ADO, as I'm very familiar with it.
Intraweb is a server based tool for building web sites, accessed via a browser. It is not "proper" multi-tier, and it sounds like it isn't what you need.
DataSnap is designed to do what you want I think. First, the ADO part would be on the server, and you would define an interface that the server offers to do tasks. Then your clients would call that interface over the internet to get data or do those tasks etc.
As for whether they will work on your web server, that depends on what your server is, and the access that is provided to it. A web server is just a PC, but typical hosting is fairly restricted to running "scripted" languages on that server, which reside in the hosting directory. A Delphi server would be a running executable (usually a Windows Service), listening on a port, and needs much more access to the computer than typical. You would need at least a virtual Windows server with administrator access to the desktop to allow it to work. In the first instance though, you could happily run the server on a DSL line or similar and make it work just fine. You can worry about hosting it on the net when you have customers paying for it.
Has somebody real experience with firebird databases over the internet?
I have a typical windows accounting/ERP software (done with delphi) that works with the firebird database server pretty well.. Now my users (300 aprox. now, but should increment) also want to work "in the cloud" (connecting from the office, from the laptop, from the house, etc.). It is a lot of work of recreating everything to a standard web application (let's say for example, HTML+CSS+JS+PHP+MYSQL), so I'm considering keeping the win client (I don't care about other OSes) but instead of the server living in the clients LANs moving it to a pair of dedicated servers that I will contract (one primary and one secondary againts failures for starting).
Searching I've come across this faq http://www.firebirdfaq.org/faq53/ that explains that the fb protocol it isn't ideal for working in the internet, but still all my users today have at least a 1MBbit/sec ADSL internet connection (I don't think that to be slow as the faq denotes).
Somebody have done this? what was the experience? how secure are fb servers for being open to the internet? how well they scale?
I know that building a "middleware" with SOAP for example will be more normal, but still the solution I'm evaluating here is much more fast and easy (still I have some work with the replication, backup, hearbreath services, but it's much less than redoing everything for the web).
Thanks! Edit: FB version: 2.5.
I had being trying to "push" the Firebird Core developers to improve the Firebird protocol to get better speed with high latency network (aka. Internet). Recently, Dmitry Yemanov published some articles in his blog about this subject (dyemanov.blogspot.com). It seems that there is margin for optimizations, and I would really like to see this coming in FB 2.5.3 and FB 3.0, although there is no warranty for this happening in those versions or anytime soon. You can vote in such improvement here: http://tracker.firebirdsql.org/browse/CORE-2530
Safety? You may try to set up a VPN. It also may help with speed, since most of the VPNs software out there (Zebedee, etc) can compress the data being transfered, helping to speed up data transfer in some cases.
Some of my customers do use Firebird traditional C/S over the internet. It is much slower compared to local network, and of course, how much slower depends basically on the link speed and latency. You can do some optimization at the client side too, using metadata cache, etc. but don't expect miracles with the currently protocol. I would say that for whole day working, using Terminal Services would be a better option for now.
The response about the scaling question
Firebird runs in production on large big iron servers : 512G of ram 100.000 concurrent users
We run Firebird to power larger systems (for 12 government agencies
and 3 banks). It has approximately 100000 end users multiplexed
through 2500 (max) pooled connections
https://plus.google.com/111558763769231855886/posts/Q1ACy1yyTgP
The protocol in Firebird 2.5 is improoved there is still room left for 3.0 but you can check
what is already done
http://asfernandes.blogspot.com/2009/07/network-latency-influence-on-firebird.html
And the future enhancements in 3.0
http://www.firebirdnews.org/?p=6953
To protect your connection i guess the best bet is ssl/ssh tunnel (it can be a opnvpn)
with high compression option
http://mapopa.blogspot.com/2010/11/securing-firebird-using-ssh-tunnel.html
FB protocol problem isn't about bandwidth, but latency. In my experience, some operations can be very slow over internet/VPN compared to LAN or local connection. I haven't examined issue further since I don't really run applications over internet connection.
However, I suggest three-tier model for application. Create own application server, which runs on database server/same network. Let the clients talk with application server and you get maximum performance.
There are some N-tier application/middleware frameworks for Delphi:
RemObjects SDK and DataAbstract
RealThinClient
kbmMW
Delphi's own DataSnap
MidWare
With those you can get data compression, encryption, binary messages (faster than SOAP) etc.
You can implement TCP/IP packets encryption/decryption directly in the firebird engine itself.
Personnaly, i have downloaded the Firebird 2.5 source code and injected secure tunnelization code directly in his low level communication layer (the INET socket layer). Now, encryption/decryption is done directly by the firebird engine for each TCP/IP packet both at the server side and the client side (fbclient.dll).
Then there is no need to re-structure the client application except adding one line of code that provide the secret key you choose to crypt communication to the fbclient.dll. The same secret key must be declared in the firebird.conf file of your server installation.
I have also implemented a proxy negociation solution in the fbclient.dll in order to allow to TCP/IP packets to pass throught any proxy server (like Microsoft ISA Server for example).
For us, this architecture is functional for more than one year in a real production system.
kbmMW CodeGear Edition is free but without source. It can be used for commercial apps.
Download it after registering at: https://portal.components4developers.com
In case you see certificate errors (you shouldnt but I know we have heard that some actually do), accept and ignore them. The site is valid despite the cert.error.
kbmMW CodeGear Edition contains a subset of kbmMW Professional Edition, but supports the following Delphi database API's:
Borland Database Engine
DBExpress
kbmMemTable
SQLite3
It supports binary, binary over HTML, XML and SOAP protocols in communication with clients.
It contains everything you need incl.
unified remote custom method invocation
unified remote dataset query, execute and data change resolving
unified database meta data handling and creation (tables, fields, indexes, generators/sequencers)
optional automatic proxying of requests to another server and proxying results back to original requester
full native XML DOM and SAX support
full dataset briefcase support as CSV, or binary data
advanced but simple to use wizard for creating new application server services
THere is one caveat though. Newest version of kbmMW CodeGear Edition always only supports newest Delphi version. You can still download older kbmMW CodeGear Editions matching older Delphi releases.
kbMMW Professional Edition and kbmMW Enterprise Edition do not have such limitations, and currently supports D7, D2006, D2007, D2010, DXE, DXE2 along with Embarcadero C++ counterparts.
best regards
Kim Madsen
www.components4developers.com
I have a Client/Server application written Delphi. Essentially all the application is doing is transferring xml data streams between a server application and connected clients. I am currently using the Indy TIdTCPServer component. But the server side application keeps crashing on some of my installments. And it has been extremely difficult to debug. So I am wondering if there is some "architecture" I should be utilizing which does all the tcp/ip connection management and database connection pooling, allowing me to concentrate on the business logic.
Here are more details:
clients must maintain a "persistent" connection. There are times when the server must notify and send data to all connected clients.
clients are connecting from laptop computers using wireless aircards. So network "drops" are pretty common.
Backend database is SqlServer.
There can be upward of 100 computers simultaneously connected at a time.
When the server gets a new connection (TCPServer.OnConnect) I instantiate my own object containing it own SqlServer database connection. When tcp connections are dropped I in turn free these objects (and associated database connection).
Client application have a TTimer built into them. They routinely send heartbeats to the server. And if they "drop"/"lose" their connection they automatically establish a new connection once the network is back.
Anyone have any suggestions on the best approach/architecture here?
I presume the Indy component would work, but at the same time feel I am "reinventing the wheel" with respect to managing the connections.
Three component sets I am aware of that will take care of the nitty gritty technical aspects of client server applications for you:
kbmMW: http://components4developers.com/
Asta: http://www.astatech.com/index.asp
RemObjects: http://www.remobjects.com/
You may have to rework your applications to take advantage of the way these component sets work, but assuming you have properly separated layers that shouldn't be too much of a hassle and will buy you the advantage of well tested and widely used code for your client server work.
If you want some light TCP/IP components, take a look at our SynCrtSock unit.
You'll find low-level classes to create IP Client and Servers.
We implemented both TCP/IP and UDP/IP in one of our applications.
There is also a THttpServer class, which implement a HTTP/1.1 server. Therefore it follows the HTTP/1.1 connection management. There is also an optional compression, and using HTTP/1.1 on a port other than 80 is not a bad idea. And what is good with HTTP/1.1 is that it can pass through firewalls, and can be easily be VPNed or hosted on another HTTP server (like IIS or Apache) with a proxy. There is even a FastCGI class, if you need such a server under a linux-based solution.
Of course, a THttpClientSocket class does the same on the client class.
We use these classes to add HTTP/1.1 connection to our Open Source SQLite3 RESTful framework - http://synopse.info/forum/viewforum.php?id=2
See http://synopse.info/fossil/artifact?name=722e896e3d7aad1fe217b0e2e7903483e66d66d1 for the SynCrtSock unit. Open source, work from Delphi 7 to Delphi 2010.
Misha Charrett's CSI Application Framework covers pretty much exactly what you're asking for.
It's an open source Delphi framework that at its heart is a distributed message passing and threading framework that allows XML message passing from both client to server and server to client.
It can handle disconnections/reconnections, high client numbers and there's an optional virtual database library that will handle SQL server (or you could just use same SQL Server access you're using now).
It's not particularly well known yet but I can tell you that it's been actively developed over the last few years and that the author Misha is very keen to assist anyone who's interested in using it in their application.
Well, it would probably require a complete rewrite of much of your C/S code, but instead of using the Indy components, you could try to use a COM+ solution instead. Basically, you would create a COM+ component that will be installed on the server and your client applications will connect to this client and call the functions of this component directly. It will have transaction management which will be handled by Windows itself and the same is true about handling transactions. It's also technically possible to create events, which would allow the server to do callbacks to the client, although that would make things a bit more complicated.
I don't think this solution would work out for you, though, unless you have a lot of experience with COM development in Windows and/or you're brave enough to try something different.
In the past, I had a similar problem where hundreds of clients had to connect to a single server, doing all kinds of database transactions. It has a steep learning curve but me and my team managed to get things working and once we understood the technique, it resulted in a very stable and reliable solution which did manage to have up to 500 users simultaneously doing updates and other actions in a one-time extreme stress-test. But again, the learning curse is steep, so it might not be the solution you're looking for.
(Still, COM+ will use a lot of functionality that's build-in into Windows, like transaction management, database pooling and whatever more.)
If you use Indy each connection will equal a thread.
Anyway, I suggest for connecting to MSSQL to use SDAC from Devart http://www.devart.com/sdac/ and for the connection layer to use HPScktSrvr based on I/O Completion Port from http://www.torry.net/authorsmore.php?id=7131 (I don't know though what changes it will need for TThread changes in newer VCL).
You build your client class arround THPServerClient, you set your new class as the server ClientClass and the framework will create automatically new clients for you.
You may also want to have a look at the ICS/Midware combo: http://www.overbyte.be/