Why doesn't TApplicationEvents.OnIdle get called? - delphi

in my app I have a main form with a button.
Clicking this button, a form (not auto-created in dpr) is created and displayed; on this form, I placed a TApplicationEvents component and I defined its OnIdle event handler.
This event handler doesn't get called! May this depend because I derived this second form not from
TForm but from an other class, TChartBasicForm (by means of VFI)?
Thank you very much for replies.
Massimo.

Hooking an application's idle event can lead to a lot of debugging woes and other maintenance headaches, especially on a form other than the main form. I realize this may not answer your specific question (which is hard to do at this point given the vagueness), but are you sure you can't accomplish what you're trying to do with a TTimer or TThread instead?

Thanks for interest to all people.
"It doesn't work" means that it's not called at all.
Instead, the event OnShowHint works!
Ooops!
Perhaps I have understood the bad behaviour!
In the main form I defined a procedure like this one:
procedure IdleHandler(Sender: TObject; var Done: Boolean);
and in the FormCreate:
Application.OnIdle := IdleHandler;
This probably inhibits TApplicationEvents.OnIdle, even if
in IdleHandler, at the end of the procedure, I put:
Application.OnIdle := nil;
because the code is usefull to try a connection only at the begin
of the application.
I beg your pardon: my face is red......

Related

Using another forms event procedure

Is there any way to allow one form to use the event procedures from another form?
E.g. I have a form called PongForm and another called ObstPongForm. There is a ticker on PongForm and another one on ObstPongForm. Is it possible to get ObstPongForm to use the code from PongForm's 'tick' event in it's own 'tick' event? Maybe by letting ObstPongForm inherit from PongForm?
You can simply assign it by code (as long as you have access to both instances):
ObstPongForm.Ticker.OnTick := PongForm.TickerTick;
Yes, forms are just classes like any other, and Delphi supports visual inheritance, so you can call inherited methods normally.
If ObstPongForm is a specialized version of PongForm then inheritance makes sense, but be careful as ObstPongForm will inherit all visual controls from the PongForm, including whatever you may add in the future.
Also since I assume you already have both forms, making one inherit from another is doable but requires some manual DFM editing, mainly changing the
Object ObstPongForm: TObstPongForm
to
Inherited ObstPongForm: TObstPongForm
If the code you want to reuse may be needed in several unrelated forms, then moving the code to a common unit used by these forms may be the best solution
It would be better style to have both of the forms call another class that implements the logic used by both. If you're writing all your program logic in your OnTimer event handler, you're heading down a bad road that many delphi programmers take years to realize was a bad idea
So one form needs to call your method, it does it like this:
procedure TForm1.DoSomething;
begin
DataModule1.LogicMethod;
end;
Elsewhere there is a timer...
procedure TForm2.Timer1Timer(Sender:TObject);
begin
DataModule1.LogicMethod;
end;
And then the method itself:
procedure TDataModule1.LogicMethod;
begin
// Everything that you used to have in Timer1Timer goes here, except the setting of
// UI properties in Form1 which is kept in Form1:
Inc(FCounter);// stupid example.
//
if Assigned(FOnResults) then
FOnResults(Self, FCounter, FDataObject1);
// Form2 is connected to FOnResults event, and stores the
// result in the UI somewhere.
end;
Event handlers are just normal procedures. If your ObstPongForm tick handler has additional code that it needs to run in addition to the PongForm's code, then you can call the PongForm's tick handler manually when needed, eg:
uses
..., PongForm;
procedure ObstPongForm.TickHandler(Sender: TObject);
begin
...
PongForm.TickHandler(Self);
...
end;

How do I check if form is Closed?

The only way I see is to add flag for this, but is this the best way?
When the form is destroyed and I check if(Assigned(form2)) the result is true? Why?
What is the way to do this?
You can use Form1.Showing to see if a form is closed or not.
Just closing a form does not free it unless you set Action := caFree in OnClose event. Default is caHide.
Wow, a blast from the past :)
The way that Assigned() works, is that it basically does nil check on the pointer. If you destroy form2, there will still be a memory address that form2 points to.
I has been a very long time since I've done any Delphi, but from memory, you need to manually set the form2 var to nil when it is destroyed. If you have a central place (eg. a form broker?) where you create & destroy forms, this should be quite easy.
If you use Form1.Free or Form1.Destroy, Delphi will destroy the object but wont set the object reference to nil. So instead use FreeAndNil.
For more information, check Andreas Rejbrand answer in this link
Faced with the same issue when doing some routine on closing application. In this case all forms are destroyed behind the stage but pointers are not set to nil. This code helphs me:
procedure TMyForm.FormDestroy(Sender: TObject);
begin
MyForm:=nil;
end;
So pointer becomes nil and I can check it with Assigned or compare to nil.
Just as a tip, the correct way to do it in some special cases is to create a timer that do the nil assign to the variable.
I will explain it (somehow it is complex), if you create your form within your own code MyForm:=TMyForm.Create and you have a MyFrom.Close it is very easy, just add a MyForm:=nil or also better MyForm.FreeAndNil... but sometimes the reference is not anyware.
Sample: You create inside a procedure, on a loop a lot of copies of the same form (or just one), let the form open and end that procedure, now the reference to the opened form is nowhere, so you can not assign nil or do a freeandnil, etc., in a normal way.
For that cases, the trick is to use a timer (of just one milisecond) that do it, that timer needs the reference, so you must store on a global like the reference to Self, all that can be done on the on close event.
The easiest way to do the free (when no reference anywhere) is to create a TObjectList on the main form, so it will hold all form references that needs to be free, and define a timer (one milisecond) that will go through that list doing the freeandnil; then on the onlcose you add Self to that list and enable that timer.
Now the other part, you have a normal form that is auto created on start, but you need to set it to nil and re-create it on your own code.
That case has a global that point to that form, so you only need to free and nil it, but NOT (i say it loud) on any part inside the own form code, you must do it OUT (i say if loud) of the form code.
Some times you will need to free the form, when user close it, and it is not shown in modal, this case is complex, but again the same trick is valid, on the onclose event you enable a timer (that is out of that form, normally on main form) adn that timer will free and nil. That timer interval can be set as just one milisecond, it will not be run until form has totally closed (please have in mind not using Application.ProcessMessages, that is normally a really bad idea).
If you set Self to nil, free or whatever inside the own form, you can corrupt your application memory (doing that is totally unsafe, not to mention it can eat ram).
The only way to free a form (and nil its reference), a form that is not shown as modal and is the user who close it, is to program a trigger that do that after the form is totally closed.
I know about setting action to do the free, but to set it to nil there is no other safe way.
Must say: If you use timers on your main form, run a Enabled:=False on all of them on the Onclose event... otherwise weird things may occur (not allways, but sometimes... race conditions about destroying application and running code on that timers), and of couse if some one was enabled act correctly to terminate it correctly or abort it, etc.
Your question is one of the complex things to do... free and nil a form that is closed not by code, but by user action.
For all the rest: Think like if the application has at the same time a lot of forms opened and all can interact with the user at the same time (anyone is modal), and you have code that references some of them from the others... you need to know f user has closed any form to avoid accesing that form from code. This is not trivial to be done unless you use timers.
If you have a 'central' form (like an MDI application) you can put that timer on the main MDI form, so any child form that is closed can be freed and nil, the trick is again a timer on that main form.
Only and only if you are sure you can free and nil all non visible forms, you can have a timer on the main form that goes through all forms and if Visible is false, then call FreeAndNil, i consider this way prone to errors, since if you add on a future a form that must not be freed but can stay hidden... this code will not be valid.
Allways remember that if is the user the onw who closes the form that must be freed and nil, there is no way on code to detect and act, no event is launched (after the form is totally closed) and before the form is totally closed you must not even try to free it or nil its reference, weird things can occur (more prone to that if motherboard has more than one socket, also more if your app uses threads, etc).
So, for threaded apps (and also not threaded) i use another method that works great and do not need timers, but need double checking prior to each ThatForm.*, the trick is to define a Form bolean public variable like as PleaseFreeAndNilMe on the public section on the form, then on the onclose (as last line) set it to True and on the OnCreate set it as False.
That way you will know if that form had been closed or only hidden (to hide a form never call close, just call hide).
So coded will look like (you can use this as a warper, instead of defining forms as TForm define them as TMyform, or also better, use a hack like type TForm=class(Forms.TForm) instead of TMyForm=class(TForm) just to have that variable added to all forms):
TMyForm=class(TForm)
...
public
PleaseFreeAndNilMe:=Boolean;
...
procedure TMyForm.FormCreate(Sender: TObject);
begin
PleaseFreeAndNilMe:=False;
...
end;
procedure TMyForm.FormClose(Sender: TObject; var Action: TCloseAction);
begin
...
PleaseFreeAndNilMe:=True;
end;
If you preffer hacked version:
TForm=class(Froms.TForm)
public
PleaseFreeAndNilMe:=Boolean;
end;
procedure TForm.FormCreate(Sender:TObject);
begin
inherited Create(Sender);
PleaseFreeAndNilMe:=False;
end;
procedure TForm.FormClose(Sender:TObject;var Action:TCloseAction);
begin
PleaseFreeAndNilMe:=True;
inherited FormClose(Sender,Action);
end;
But as i said, prior to access any member (or just where you do the nil compare) just call a 'global' function passign the reference (no matter if it was nil or not), coded as:
function IsNilTheForm(var TheForm: TMyForm);
begin
if nil=TheForm
then begin // The form was freed and nil
IsNilTheForm:=True; // Return value
end
else begin // The form refence is not nil, but we do not know is it has been freed or not
try
if TheForm.PleaseFreeAndNilMe
then begin // The form is not freed but wants to
try
TheForm.Free;
except
end;
try
TheForm:=Nil;
except
end;
IsNilTheForm:=True; // Return value
end
else begin // The form is not nil, not freed and do not want to be freed
IsNilTheForm:=False; // Return value
end;
except // The form was freed but not set to nil
TheForm:=Nil; // Set it to nil since it had beed freed
IsNilTheForm:=True; // Return value
end;
end;
end;
So where you do if nil=MyForm then ... you can now do if (IsNilTheForm(MyForm)) then ....
That is it.
It is better the timer solution, since form is freed as soon as possible (less ram used), with the PleaseFreeAndNilMe trick the form is not freed until IsNilTheForm is called (if you do not free it any where else).
That IsNilTheForm is so complex because it is considering all states (for a multi socket motherboard and threaded apps) and letting the code free / nil it anywhere else.
Of course, that function must be called on main thread and in atomic exclusion.
Free a Form and Nil its pointer is not a trivial thing, most when user can close it at any time (since no code out of the form is fired).
The big problem is: When a user closes a form there is no way to have a event handler that is triggered out of that form and after the form ends all things it is doing.
Imaigne now that the coder has put a lot of Application.ProcessMessages; every where on the app, also on that form, etc... and has not taken the care for race conditions... try to free and nil such a form after the user asks it to be closed... this is a nightmare, but can be solved with the hacked version of TForm that has a variable that tells that the form has not been freed but wants it.
Now imagine you use hacked TForm and want a normal TForm, just define it as ...= class(Forms.TForm), that way it will now have that extra variable., so calling IsNilTheForm will act as comparing to nil.
Hope this helps VCL coders to FIX such things, like raising an event when an object is destroyed, freed, niled, hide, etc... out of the code of that object, like on main form, etc. That would make live easier... or just fix it... Close and Free implies set to Nil all refences that point to it.
There is another thing that can be done (but i try to allways avoid it): Have multiple variables that point to the exact same form (not to copies ot it), that is prone to a lot of errors, you free one and need to nil all of them, etc... The code i show is also compatible with that.
I know the code is comples... but Free and Nil a form is more complex than my code.

Where should I put code to execute once after my Delphi app has finished initialising?

I have functions I want to perform after my app has finished initialising and the main form has been created. I did have the code (call it ProcedureX) in the forms OnShow event, but I have just noticed that it is being called twice, because OnShow is firing twice. It fires when the main program DPR calls:
Application.CreateForm(TMainForm, MainForm) ;
as I would expect. But after that, when I read stuff from an INI file that includes the forms on-screen position, I have a call:
MainForm.position := poScreenCenter ;
This, it would appear fires the OnShow event again.
Where can I put my call to ProcedureX, which must only be called once, and which needs the main form to be created before it can execute?
If your code only needs to run once per form creation (or per application and the form is only created once per application run), put the code in the form's OnCreate handler. It is the natural place for it to go.
Nowadays (since D3 I think) the OnCreate fires at the end of the construction process in the AfterConstruction method. Only if you were to set OldCreateOrder to True (and it is False by default), might you get in trouble as that makes the OnCreate fire at the end of the Create constructor.
The normal order of execution for a Form is :
AfterConstruction: when the form and it components are fully created with all their properties.
OnShow: whenever the Form is ready to show (and, yes, any change causing a CM_SHOWINGCHANGED can trigger an OnShow)
Activate: whenever the Form takes the Focus
So, depending on what you need in ProcedureX, AfterConstruction might be enough, and is executed only once; just override it and add ProcedureX after inherited. It'll be after OnCreate.
If it is not the case, you can post a custom message to your Form from AfterConstruction, it will be queued and will reach your custom handler after the other messages have been handled.
In both cases, you would not need a extra boolean Field.
#Sertac,
There's really no need for the FRUNOnce field; simply do OnShow=NIL as the first line of your FormShow method.
FYI, The "run once" idiom -- setting the event handler field to NIL in the first line of the event handler -- is also terribly useful for getting some code up-and-running once a form has been completely initialized. Put your code in a FormActivate method and, as the first line of the method, set OnActivate=NIL.
You can test and set a flag once you call the procedure for the first time. Like so:
type
TForm1 = class(TForm)
procedure FormShow(Sender: TObject);
private
FRunOnce: Boolean;
public
[...]
[...]
procedure TForm1.FormShow(Sender: TObject);
begin
if not FRunOnce then begin
FRunOnce := True;
ProcedureX;
end;
end;
You can add a procedure in your DPR file, after Application.CreateForm.
Put all code you need to initialize in that procedure.
Works best when you have multiple forms in your app.
Also if the initialization takes a lot, it let's the program to display the forms on the screen so the user will know that the app is loading.
Example:
PROGRAM MyProgram;
begin
Application.Initialize;
Application.CreateForm(TMyForm, MyForm);
MyForm.Show;
LateInitialize; <----------- here
Application.Run;
end.
I'm going to propose a bit different approach to this answer by Server Overflow. We will achieve almost exactly same effect, but without any edit inside the DPR file (main project source file). We will get there by using a class helper in the unit of our main form:
type
{ TAppHelper }
TAppHelper
= Class helper for TApplication
Public Procedure Run;
End;
Procedure TAppHelper.Run;
begin
Unit1.MainForm.PreRun;
inherited Run;
end;
Notice, the Unit1.MainForm.PreRun is some method in your main form, with only one caveat: if your main form is called "MainForm", then you need to prefix it with your unit's name inside the helper's method, because the TApplication class already has a member called MainForm. Incidentally, if you do leave out the prefix, this might still work, given that your Unit1.MainForm is indeed application's main form as well.
The reason why this works, is because the Unit1 is on the uses list of the DPR project, and as long as the TAppHelper is defined in the interface section (not in the implementation section), it will get loaded and by the time the Application.Run method is called in the DPR file, this will already be the helper version of it.
The beauty of this is, that it will run exactly one time, and exactly after all the forms are already created, after all their constructors have already been executed. And the fact that we're effectively customizing the Application.Run call in the DPR file, without editting the DPR file, is kind of ingenious. Again, class helpers in delphi/lazarus !
I will share one more neat trick, first take a look:
Procedure TAppHelper.Run;
begin
TTask.Run(
procedure
begin
sleep(10);
TThread.Synchronize(nil, procedure begin Unit1.MainForm.PreRun; end);
end
);
inherited Run;
end;
This is a trick I use whenever I want the code to execute with a small delay. Why? Because if your code runs before the inherited Run method, it might (depending what happens inside of that code) hang the UI momentarily, but just long enough for the form to flicker and appear not responsive during its startup. Also, we can't simply put the code behind the inherited Run method, because that won't get executed until the application gets terminated. So instead I use TTask from the System.Threading unit. The sleep(10) is probably an overkill, sleep(1) would most likely do the job, possibly even no sleep at all would work, but I do some complex initialization there, so I keep the delay generous. Bonus: if you don't update UI from your PreRun custom method, then you don't even need TThread.Synchronize wrapper, and it becomes even simpler. In case of FPC/Lazarus you can achieve the same by using TApplication.QueueAsyncCall() instead of TTask class.
I really think it's a neat trick, because I can code it entirely outside of the DPR file, in the unit of the form which defines the PreRun method, and it's guaranteed after ALL Forms are already created, not just the one where I implement my PreRun method. Also, if the class helper is in the unit of the form, instead elsewhere, then the PreRun doesn't even need to be public, it will work with protected or even private method as well! This is great for keeping this little logic away from any other part of the code.
#Sertec,
Your code won't work either if you want it to run for every unhide event (you haven't put in any code to reset the frunonce field).
So your method would need to reset frunonce field, and mine would need to set OnShow=FormShow. Same difference, except that you need an additional field.

Prevent Form Deactivate in Delphi 6

We have a Delphi 6 application that uses a non modal form with in-grid editing. Within the FormClose event we check that the entries are square and prevent closure if they're not.
However, if the user clicks on the main form behind then the original form disappears behind (as you'd expect) but this allows the user to move to a new record on the main screen, without their changes in the grid having been validated.
I've tried the FormDeactivate event, which does fire but doesn't seem to have any mechanism to prevent deactivation (unlike the FormClose events Action parameter).
I tried the OnExit from the grid, but it doesn't fire on deactivation.
I tried trapping the WM_ACTIVATE message and setting Msg.Result = 1 but this has no effect (possibly because another WM_ACTIVATE message is being sent to the main form?).
So, I'm looking for ideas on how to (conditionally) prevent the deactivation of a form when the user clicks on another form.
(PS I don't want to change the form style to fsStayOnTop)
Thanks
A classic rule in Windows is that you can't change the focus during a focus-changing event. The OnDeactivate event occurs during a focus-changing event. Your form is being told that it is being deactivated — the OS is not asking permission — and at the same time, the other form is being told that it is being activated. Neither window has any say in the matter, and attempting to change the focus while these events are going on will only get all the windows confused. Symptoms include having two windows painting themselves as though they have focus, and having keyboard messages go nowhere despite the input cursor blinking. MSDN is even more dire, although I've never witnessed anything that bad:
While processing this message [WM_KILLFOCUS], do not make any function calls that display or activate a window. This causes the thread to yield control and can cause the application to stop responding to messages. For more information, see Message Deadlocks.
Since you can't deny a focus change after it's already started, the thing to do is to delay handling of the event until after things have settled down. When your editing form gets deactivated and the data on it isn't valid yet, post the form a message. Posting puts the message on the end of the message queue, so it won't get handled until all previous messages — the focus-changing notifications in particular — have already been handled. When the message arrives, indicate that data is invalid and set focus back to the editing form:
const
efm_InvalidData = wm_User + 1;
type
TEditForm = class(TForm)
...
private
procedure EFMInvalidData(var Msg: TMessage); message efm_InvalidData;
end;
procedure TEditForm.FormDeactivate(Sender: TObject);
begin
if DataNotValid then
PostMessage(Handle, efm_InvalidData, 0, 0);
end;
procedure TEditForm.EFMInvalidData(var Msg: TMessage);
begin
Self.SetFocus;
ShowMessage('Invalid data');
end;
I should point out that this answer doesn't technically answer your question since it does nothing to prevent form deactivation, but you rejected my other answer that really does prevent deactivation.
When you call ShowModal, all the forms except the one being shown get disabled. They're re-enabled just before ShowModal returns.
Display your editing form nonmodally, and when data starts being edited, have the form make itself modal by disabling the other form. Enable the other form when editing is complete. Apparently, disabling windows isn't always quite as simple as setting the Enabled property. I'd suggest using DisableTaskWindows, but it would disable all windows, including your editing form. Nonetheless, take a look at how it's implemented in Forms.pas. It keeps a list of all the windows it disables so that only they get re-enabled afterward.
Delphi 2006 introduced OnMouseActivate events. The main form's OnMouseActivate would let you prevent the main form from being activated if the other form is visible.
This doesn't work with D6 of course.
It not a helpful answer David, but I think I would have to agree with other respondents that this is not the correct approach. There are so many ways that it can all go wrong that stopping and taking a look at a different way to solve your problem might be better.
Even if you did manage to find the event/method/message that does what you want, you would still need to be able to deal with the scenario where the electricity goes off.
On a slightly more useful note, have you tried disabling your mainform until ready? You could put all controls on a panel and then just do
panel1.enabled := false;
You may also introduce a state in your model that tracks if the window needs the focus as you describe it here and use onFocus handlers on the other forms that programmatically set the focus back to your grid window.
[Edit] Copy of my Comment:
You could register for the onShow Event of the forms with the grid. (If you implement it be sure to make it somehow configurable to minimize the grid dependency on the present layout of the application. Maybe by providing a method that is called by the forms which in turn triggers the event registration of the grid at the calling form for the onShow event)
To elaborate on the event registration:
You can attach event handlers programatically. There are plenty howtos in the net about this. I have no Delphi available here, so I can't copy working code now.
Pseudocode for programatically attaching the event!
myform.onShow=myGrid.formOnShowHandler;
formOnShowHandler has the same signature as the functions that are generated by the IDE for onShow Events. It has a parameter that you can use to figure out which form has called the handler so you can reuse the function and simply put the form in the background and show your gridform (which will be for example the parent of the grid) again.
Thanks to everyone for their help and suggestions.
Here's the solution I went with:
In the 'Grid Form' (eg Form2) ...
public
PricesNotSquare: boolean;
In the FormDeactivate event, set PricesNotSquare to true if they don't match.
In the OnActivate event of the Main Form, ...
if Assigned(Form2) and (Form2.PricesNotSquare) then
begin
ShowMessage( 'Please ensure the total Prices match before leaving the form' );
Form2.Show;
exit;
end;
// other form activate stuff here
Turned out to be a simple solution, just took a while to get it.
Seems to work fine, but if it has issues then I'll incorporate the idea of sending a message.

Flipping through two forms

I am just wondering if I'm doign something that might be bad, although it seems a very practical solution to me...
I have two forms which the user will have to walk through. The user clicks on a button and form1 pops up. The user presses OK and the second one pops up. The user click OK again and the screens are gone. Or the user clicks on Retry and the screen goes back to the first one. The two screens are completely different sizes with different information.
So I came up with this code:
Form1 := TForm1.Create(SharedData);
Form2 := TForm2.Create(SharedData);
repeat
ModalResult := Form1.ShowModal;
if (ModalResult = mrOK) then ModalResult := Form2.ShowModal;
until (ModalResult <> mrRetry);
Form1.Release;
Form2.Release;
I've tested this code and it seems to work like a charm. In this code, SharedData is an object that contains data that's manipulated by both forms. I create this object before the two forms are created and when ModalResult==mrOK I just write the data back to the database.
Problem is, while I think this is a clean solution to handle flipping between two forms, I can't remember ever seeing something like this construction before. Of course, I'm a Genius. (At least, me Ego tells me I am.) But would there be something against using this piece of code or is it just fine?
If the code does what it's supposed to, I think it's fine. I've not seen anything quite like it before either, but it's pretty obvious what it's doing... which in my book is far better than just blindly following other people's work. :-)
I don't see anything wrong with the code. I do question, however, the passing of SharedData to the constructor of both forms. Unless you've overridden the constructor (using reintroduce as well), the argument to TForm.Create() accepts an owner; that owner is responsible for freeing the objects it owns. Since you're freeing them yourself, there's no need to assign an owner; just pass nil to the call to Create() to avoid the overhead of saving the reference, accessing the list of owned objects when one is freed to remove the reference, etc.
Also, Release is designed to be called from within the event handler of the control itself, such as in a button click event. It makes sure that all pending messages are handled before the control is actually freed, in order to avoid AVs. Using it the way you are again adds unnecessary overhead, as you're not using them inside an event handler. You can safely just use Form1.Free; instead.
To clarify use of Release, it's for use in code of the Form itself. For instance, if you have a button on the form, and you want that button's click to cause the form to be freed, you use Release:
procedure TForm1.Button1Click(Sender: TObject);
begin
Self.Release;
Close;
end;
This allows the button click to free the form, but makes sure that the subsequent call to Close runs first. If you use Free instead of Release above, you could end up calling Close on a non-existent Form1. (Chances are it would still be OK, because of the silliness of the code above; the form would still be resident in memory. Still a bad idea, though.)

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